ABC ONLINE GLITCH LEADS TO IDENTITY OF FOLEY ACCUSER; FEATURED IM EXCHANGE WAS WITH 18 YEAR OLD

The 'boys' led him on for their amusement or in perverse way to encourage him to write things for which he could be blackmailed later

No question. . .and one more possibility and as likely or in combination with any the above. . .the 'boy'/boys were in fact gay themselves which I think is surely, 'most likely'. . .

What are you wearing? . . .Normal clothes. . .

Okay. . .nuff said, right there. . .

1,361 posted on 10/05/2006 9:56:23 AM PDT by cricket (Live Liberal free. . .or suffer their consequences. . .SAVE THE TERRORISTS! VOTE DEMOCRAT. . .)

Even Fox News (this morning, anyway) hasn't said a WORD about this non-minor pal of Foley's. Rush is talking about it, but crickets chirping everywhere else it seems...Time to start writing to Fox News; if one hasn't already. . .I actually missed it this morning. ..but was thinking last night; somebody would address this one.
They are George Soros' appearance this afternoon with Neil, however. . .and I bugged by that as well; particularly the way this man is 'framed' for his guest appearance.

Will Neil actually rise to the truth of Soros on this occasion; I think not. . .

1,362 posted on 10/05/2006 10:00:59 AM PDT by cricket (Live Liberal free. . .or suffer their consequences. . .SAVE THE TERRORISTS! VOTE DEMOCRAT. . .)

I am not a expert, but i think they were sent in April and we know that his birthday is Feb. That makes him 18

What is the source of that April date?

1,363 posted on 10/05/2006 10:28:20 AM PDT by Michamilton

emails sent in APRIL!!!

And what is the source of the April date??

1,364 posted on 10/05/2006 10:34:11 AM PDT by Michamilton

The IMs were time/date stamped for April 03, as I understand it.

1,365 posted on 10/05/2006 10:40:36 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry

To: Eagles Talon IV

It has been explained that the IM's of a sexual nature where sent after the boy was 18. There is nothing unseemly or illegal about a Congressman, even if gay, contacting a minor who was employed with him and inquiring about his welfare, etc.

Thank you. At this rate, *any* communication whatever between an adult and someone under 18 will automatically be construed as a proposition.

1,366 posted on 10/05/2006 11:35:03 AM PDT by valkyrieanne

So if you IM a naughty note to a 16 year old, thats a crime. If you cornhole him in a DC hotel, thats OK?

I don't believe this is true. From this Wikipedia article on the age of consent, it very clearly says the following (there are links on the page itself.)

Federal Laws

{Chapter 117, 18 U.S.C. 2422(b)} forbids the use of the United States Postal Service or other interstate or foreign means of communication, such as telephone calls or use of the internet, to persuade or entice a minor (defined as under 18 throughout chapter) to be involved in a criminal sexual act. The act has to be illegal under state or federal law to be charged with a crime under 2422(b), and can even be applied to situations where both parties are within the same state, but uses an instant messenger program whose servers are in another state.[3]

{Chapter 117, 18 U.S.C. 2423(a)} forbids transporting a minor (defined as under 18) in interstate or foreign commerce with the intent of engaging in criminal sexual acts in which a person can be charged. This subsection is ambigious on its face, and only seems to apply if you transport a minor across state or international lines to a place where the conduct is already illegal to begin with. United States Department of Justice seems to agree with this interpretation.

{Chapter 117, 18 U.S.C. 2423(b)} forbids traveling in interstate or foreign commerce to engage in "illicit sexual conduct" with a minor. 2423(f) refers to Chapter 109A as its bright line for defining "illicit sexual conduct", as for as non-commercial sexual activity is concerned. For the purposes of age of consent, the only provision applicable is {Chapter 109A, 18 U.S.C. 2243(a)}. 2243(a) refers to situations where such younger person is under the age of 16 years, has attained 12 years of age, and the older person is more than 4 years older than the 12-15 year old (persons under 12 are handled under 18 U.S.C. 2241(c) under aggravated sexual abuse). So, the age is 12 years if you're within 4 years of the 12-15 year old's age, 16 under all other circumstances. This most likely reflects Congressional intent to not unduly interfere with a state's age of consent law, which would have been the case if the age was set to 18 under all circumstances. This law is also extraterritorial in nature to US Citizens and Residents who travel outside of the United States.

I have bolded "criminal sexual act" because in various states, the age of consent can be younger than 18. If anyone has a citation that shows that federal law is trumping state AOC laws now, I would really like to see a link to the original federal law.

As I understand it, it's only criminal if actual enticement took place in a state where the AOC was 18 (not 16 or 17 as many states are.) If anyone has any specific knowledge to the contrary, I would really appreciate a link/reference.

1,367 posted on 10/05/2006 11:44:04 AM PDT by valkyrieanne

To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Don't know if this is true or if it's some kind of CYA for Jordan Edmund, but here's the latest on Drudge:

**World Exclusive** **Must Credit the DRUDGE REPORT** According to two people close to former congressional page Jordan Edmund, the now famous lurid AOL Instant Message exchanges that led to the resignation of Mark Foley were part of an online prank that by mistake got into the hands of enemy political operatives, the DRUDGE REPORT can reveal... Developing... CLAIM: FILTHY FOLEY ONLINE MESSAGES WERE PAGE PRANK GONE AWRY

1,368 posted on 10/05/2006 11:54:14 AM PDT by Enchante (There are 3 kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and the Drive-By Media)

A "page prank" - yep, this'll be the parachute for the MSM to deny malice.

1,369 posted on 10/05/2006 11:55:32 AM PDT by PeterFinn (Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for.)

Rush just mentioned the "maybe it was a prank" idea. Do you think the genius "child" at the other end of the PMs just took the concept from Rush and ran with it? or do you think that it was REALLY a prank?

1,370 posted on 10/05/2006 11:56:42 AM PDT by madison10 (Live your life in such a way that the preacher won't have to lie at your funeral.)

PS - check the spelling in your tagline...

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pr0n

1,371 posted on 10/05/2006 12:17:29 PM PDT by TechJunkYard (check Foley's computer for kiddie pr0n..)

To: George W. Bush

.. if Foley files libel/slander against him and ABC. Then Foley would get subpoena power and we could dig much further into all the people involved in this fake 'scandal'.

I hope the Hastert/Freeh investigation looks at ALL congresscritters and exposes some democrat perverts. The Drudge revelation shows that the drive-by media will jump on anything when it involves our reps, but bad behavior is to be expected from the other side of the aisle.

1,372 posted on 10/05/2006 12:23:24 PM PDT by TechJunkYard (check Foley's computer for kiddie pr0n..)

Try this. We have almost a $500 billion defense budget, which is more than the rest of the world combined. Can we afford a 25% increase in active duty personnel and all of the related equipment, infrastructure, etc.? How does this impact major weapons systems procurement? If the entitlement programs [Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid] are not reformed, by 2060, the combination of Social Security and Medicare will account for more than 71 percent of the federal budget. Today, Social Security pays out more than $450 billion a year. Defense spending is considered as "discretionary" spending. We are going to have a hard time maintaining the current spending levels on defense let alone increasing it by 25%.

You want the truth? The truth is the GOP house and senate has given in more to the DEMs since 1995 than they had in all the previous 50 years combined. We are going through The Great Society Part 2 and GWB is leading the charge. I expect more out of the GOP. If they will not do their job I'll vote for an Independent who will not a DEM but an Independent.

1,373 posted on 10/05/2006 12:47:32 PM PDT by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)

E-mailed Fox News. . .Drudge WINS. . .'Fox'. . .loses..

1,374 posted on 10/05/2006 12:56:40 PM PDT by cricket (Live Liberal free. . .or suffer their consequences. . .SAVE THE TERRORISTS! VOTE DEMOCRAT. . .)

To: TechJunkYard

Nancy Pelosi nixed Freeh.

1,375 posted on 10/05/2006 12:57:35 PM PDT by Howlin (Why Won't Nancy Pelosi Let Louis Freeh Investigate the Page Scandal?)

Fox has been behind the ball for a long time. Sad and disgusting.

1,376 posted on 10/05/2006 1:00:35 PM PDT by jrooney ( Hold your cards close.)

Fox has been behind the ball for a long time. Sad and disgusting

Agree. . .behind, too often. As we speak; Neil interviewing George Soros in 'hushed tones'. . .

Have volue down; will catch later to see if Neil gets to the 'Soros truth'.. . .; right now; enjoying 'talk radio' who are actually telling the news like it is.

1,377 posted on 10/05/2006 1:18:50 PM PDT by cricket (Live Liberal free. . .or suffer their consequences. . .SAVE THE TERRORISTS! VOTE DEMOCRAT. . .)

I expect more out of the GOP. If they will not do their job I'll vote for an Independent who will not a DEM but an Independent.

We all expect more; but we wil not get it at all; if there are no Repubs in power to demand the best from.

Past. . .is the time; we had the luxury of voting for the 'man'. . .or going 'third Party'. Way too much at stake here; IMHO to even consider empowering a Demrat win; by voting 'alternative' . ..or not at all.

1,378 posted on 10/05/2006 1:51:24 PM PDT by cricket (Live Liberal free. . .or suffer their consequences. . .SAVE THE TERRORISTS! VOTE DEMOCRAT. . .)

To: TechJunkYard

I had no idea TJY, I will use that in Scrabble tonight.

1,379 posted on 10/05/2006 2:07:52 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Even The Nicest Pug Has An Evil Twin)

That's a Zero, BTW, not a capital "O".

1,380 posted on 10/05/2006 2:13:34 PM PDT by TechJunkYard (check Foley's computer for kiddie pr0n..)

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