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YOur suspicions about the timing of this issue appear to be valid.
1 posted on 10/02/2006 4:42:34 AM PDT by Renfield
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Just run this guy out of town and get on with the program.

It's the GOP tha really get hurt ! This guy was a SLOB
for a long time.


2 posted on 10/02/2006 4:46:34 AM PDT by Zenith
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Democrats dont mind getting down and dirty.

Any dirty trick is ok by them as long as it isnt used against them.

Old Bubble eyes is the biggest fan of the dirty deal.


3 posted on 10/02/2006 4:48:10 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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teh dems are gonna gnaw on this like a pit bull on an attackers arm. we won't see the end of this till after the election.


4 posted on 10/02/2006 4:49:38 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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No one in the Speaker’s Office was made aware of the sexually explicit text messages which press reports suggest had been directed to another individual until they were revealed in the press and on the internet this week. In fact, no one was ever made aware of any sexually explicit email or text messages at any time.

The GOP had better find a way to get that message out.

Worth reading for information about Brian Ross; I think you were mentioning you had suspicions about him.

5 posted on 10/02/2006 4:53:46 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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A rather interesting article.
6 posted on 10/02/2006 4:58:09 AM PDT by philman_36
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The Democrats will lie steal cheat and murder to get their way.


8 posted on 10/02/2006 5:03:13 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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I am proud to be part of a political party that asks members to resign when they are caught behaving badly.

Compare that to Democrats who look the other way when a member punches a policeman or another when caught driving drunk claims political immunity or another found hiding $90,000 in their freezer or another who drove his car off a bridge and ran away to let a woman die.

The Democrat list is endless but they still stay in office and even become icons.
11 posted on 10/02/2006 5:18:44 AM PDT by when the time is right
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Brian Ross of ABC ran the story, beginning with the same “overly friendly” but not sexually suggestive email exchange and adding a series of instant messages dating to 2003 previously unseen by anyone in Congress between Foley and anonymous recipients said to be former pages.

Hmmm, seems that this might be the same type of news that Dan Rather brought us a couple of years ago?????????

15 posted on 10/02/2006 5:36:02 AM PDT by eeriegeno
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Personally, I don't care about the timing or who brought it to light, even if it was intended as ammunition against the Republicans as a whole.

If the guy is a slimeball, then he's a slimeball who needed to be booted out of office and his resignation is a good thing.

Just because the Dems don't have standards for their elected officials doesn't mean we shouldn't have standards for ours.


16 posted on 10/02/2006 5:36:20 AM PDT by dawn53
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It was right for Foley to resign. But the feigned indigantion from the Dems is a tad much (considering the passes given to Gary Studds and Barney Frank), and their vocal esposual of gay issues.

Also, clearly, if the page was on ACTIVE service as a page when the salacious correspondence occurred, then it is a totally different matter than if the page had returned to home.

Second, how old was the page/former page when the salacious IMs occurred? Legally, Foley might be off the hook if the kid was over the age of consent. Since the Dems are so in love with threading the needle with regard to rights for gays, pedophiles, etc., if the kid was beyond the age of consenn then the Dems need to shut up. This,, of course, doesn't make the correspondence any less disgsuting, but it might not have been illegal.

And getting back to may earlier point...it also makes a difference if the kid was a page AT THE TIME the IMs occurred.


19 posted on 10/02/2006 5:46:50 AM PDT by carrier-aviator
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But Democrats are attempting to make hay by alleging that the Republican leadership may have known about the inappropriate emails and covered them up for months

This really is the only stance the Rats CAN take.
They can't really take a stance against what Foley did because of their already commited stance for, to put it politely, "civil unions".
27 posted on 10/02/2006 6:12:40 AM PDT by stylin19a (I'm not just long, I'm Lama long !)
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Long but good article. BTW:

Then on September 18, the blog printed the fairly innocuous email exchange between Congressman Foley and an unnamed page.

For the record, I looked it up, the Florida primaries were on September 5. That would have been the last day Foley's name could have been removed from the ballot.

I will remember the name "C.R.E.W."

28 posted on 10/02/2006 6:12:55 AM PDT by AmishDude
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There appears to be a bunch of people who seem anxious to suppress their moral compass in order to view this matter through the limited prism of their political compass. If that is your particular understanding in this matter, I need for someone to tell me the difference between conservatives and Democrats.

The only option is a clear and absolute condemnation of what sits in front of us. What is morally correct is also politically astute. Those of you who choose to wallow in this moral relativism claiming that "we are not as bad as them" are destined to practice their politics in a sewer along with those that we oppose.


29 posted on 10/02/2006 6:15:33 AM PDT by spatso
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The fact is the MSM is dancing overtime to obscure the instant messages with the innocuous emails.

If democrats want to nationalize this Foley scandal then they have to admit some facts.

The REAL issue is a homosexual soliciting sex from a child.

Thus if Democrats were sincere then they would be pushing for federal laws prohibiting homosexuals from contact with child, adopting children, and specific professions.

Democrats have an issue but they can't use it because they are in the homoadvocacy position not the keep homosexuals from children position.

The fact is the MSM is working overtime to not address the difference between the known emails and the just exposed instant messages.

Fox News Live just had Robert Novack and it was EXPLICITY pointed out the different between emails and instant messages. Robert Novak just ignored the difference when it was pointed out to him. Instead he went into the plain "republicans are dooooomed" anylisis.

If democrats were able to function they would DEMAND to pass legislation to limiting contact between homosexuals and children.

Republicans can not only difuse this debate, regardless of winning/loosing foleys former seat, by putting more out in public faster than democrat can debate.


40 posted on 10/02/2006 6:29:57 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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YOur suspicions about the timing of this issue appear to be valid


I agree with your suspicions, however, if the Republicans would stay out of trouble than the democratic party would not have any ammunition. The timing is suspect, but it was a Republican who is guilty of at least lapse of judgement. We just gave the democrats the opportunity to make us look foolish. I would imagine that we would get on the bandwagon if the situation were in reverse....oh yes we did Cynthia McKinney - she thankfully lost the primary because in part...US!!!!!


43 posted on 10/02/2006 6:34:23 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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FNC just reported Foley is in ALCOHOL REHAB!!!!!!

A homosexual solicits a child for sex and ALCOHOL REHAB is the treatment?

The crew, democrat dirty tricks team, should be reported for knowing about child endagerment (particularly if any of them are laweyrs)


44 posted on 10/02/2006 6:36:22 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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ABC has not disclosed the names of the recipients of the instant messages which were sexually explicit, years old, and not seen by anyone else. We do not know how anyone but the recipients could have retrieved them. We do not even know if they are authentic. None of the recipients has come forward and identified himself. What we do know is that reputable media and the Republican leadership acted appropriately on the initial innocuous correspondence and could not proceed further in view of the parents’ demand that their son’s privacy be respected only to find months later just before the election that same correpondence showing up on an unlikely blog site and then almost simultaneously on ABC and on C.R.E.W.’s site.


ABC and C.R.E.W. knew of a child being solicited for sex and did nothing.


ABC and C.R.E.W. were ready to allow the horror of a child sexually molested by an adult in order to time the release!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
47 posted on 10/02/2006 6:46:17 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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ABC has not disclosed the names of the recipients of the instant messages which were sexually explicit, years old, and not seen by anyone else. We do not know how anyone but the recipients could have retrieved them. We do not even know if they are authentic. None of the recipients has come forward and identified himself. What we do know is that reputable media and the Republican leadership acted appropriately on the initial innocuous correspondence and could not proceed further in view of the parents’ demand that their son’s privacy be respected only to find months later just before the election that same correpondence showing up on an unlikely blog site and then almost simultaneously on ABC and on C.R.E.W.’s site.


ABC and C.R.E.W. knew of a child being solicited for sex and did nothing.


ABC and C.R.E.W. were ready to allow the horror of a child sexually molested by an adult in order to time the release!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
49 posted on 10/02/2006 6:46:28 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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bttt


57 posted on 10/02/2006 7:38:37 AM PDT by kalee
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I forgot about Mel Reynolds!!! Clinton gave him some kind of job afterwords.


58 posted on 10/02/2006 7:43:20 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kabooms"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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