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To: atlaw
"These aren't necessarily the only two alternatives."

Sure, but no matter how many alternatives there are, only ONE can be correct.

"Furthermore, knowledge of the genesis of the universe is not a prerequisite to determining the global applicability within the universe of dicta such as "there is only one truth" or "the law of non-contradiction has no exceptions."

But nevertheless, there can only be one genesis of the universe - it cannot have two different but equal origins.

"But those "concrete laws of physics" themselves present an evident exception to non-contradiction (or the rule that simultaneous, contradictory states cannot coexist), in that accurate knowledge of complementarity subatomic pairs is impossible. For example, you can measure the location of an electron, but not its momentum (energy) at the same time."

I understand that we cannot measure both location and momentum of particles - that does not mean that they do not have both at the same time (we know that they do, or must). Only one location and only one momentum can be correct (true).

"Why would concrete laws of morality governing "X" human behavior necessarily be incompatible with indefinite laws of morality governing "Y" human behavior? In other words, why must there be only one or the other (concrete laws of morality for all situations /or/ no concrete laws of morality for any situation)?"

OK - there either are, or there are not - but they cannot be and not be - either there are NO rules, or there are a set of rules. Which fits better? (Why would it be wrong for us to slaughter each other wontonly, why is it wrong to abuse children, etc.?)

"Indeed, our western system of justice is premised on the notion of "case by case" analysis, explicitly recognizing both the concept of generalized "rules" applicable to all situations, and the concept that extenuating and/or mitigating circumstances accompany each situation."

Ditto above - some things are just wrong - there are some black-and-white sitiations - not everything is shades of grey.

"The everyday intangibles of civilized human interaction...."

Well Sir - in the words of Alex Karras: "Mongo just pawn in game of life."

226 posted on 10/05/2006 4:07:23 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Psalm 73
But nevertheless, there can only be one genesis of the universe - it cannot have two different but equal origins.

Why not? You assert this definitively, but there is nothing other than your assertion to support it. And again, of what bearing is this on the supposed, global applicability within the universe of the "law of non-contradiction" and the statement that "there is only one truth?"

Only one location and only one momentum can be correct (true).

But only upon measurement. Until measurement, the particle exists in a state of uncertainty (possessing two mutually exclusive properties at the same time).

OK - there either are, or there are not - but they cannot be and not be - either there are NO rules, or there are a set of rules.

I'm not sure how, but you apparently missed my point. Your statement certainly appears to reiterate your original fallacy -- either there are rules for every situation, or there are no rules for any situation.

This either/or, black/white precept of yours is defied on a regular basis in our everyday lives. Sure, we live with an accepted set of generalized moral, behavioral, legal, and "engineering and navigation of life" rules (applicable to our subset of civilization and consistent with the current state of our knowledge of the physical world).

But we also live with the knowledge that there are unanticipated situations for which the general rules are inapplicable or only partly applicable (hence our need to consider the specifics of a situation before committing to a resolution). Simply put, we recognize (with little need for contemplation) that are in fact multiple "truths".

some things are just wrong - there are some black-and-white sitiations - not everything is shades of grey.

Correct. Not everything is "shades of grey." But a great deal is. Hence, the "only one truth" statement is a fallacy.

Well Sir - in the words of Alex Karras: "Mongo just pawn in game of life."

While humorous, I'm not sure I understand your point. The fact of the matter is, we accept and deal with inescapable contradictory states and uncertainties all of the time -- indeed, they are an inevitability in our social and economic construct. We give them little thought because they have become inextricably woven into the patterns of our behavior. But if you parse them out, you soon realize that the "law of non-contradiction" and the statement that "there is only one truth" have rather limited applicability.

227 posted on 10/05/2006 7:51:44 AM PDT by atlaw
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