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Children handcuffed in police drug raid (and SOP of shooting the family dog)
Albany Times Union ^
Posted on 09/28/2006 5:26:29 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: phoenix0468
You actually think they show a badge before they show barrel of a gun? LOL
And they will all be yelling different things. You won't understand any of it.
I don't see how the fact that this boy reacted violently to a gun in his face as he was waking up shows anything about how he was raised.
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posted on
09/29/2006 11:19:23 AM PDT
by
stands2reason
(The map is not the territory - A. Korzybski)
To: brytlea
"There is not a breed of dog out there in which every individual fits the usual breed type."That's right. Animals have hte same range of personality differences that can be observed in people. However, that does not include their basic biology, which in this case amounts to sympathetic nervous system response. The breeds response is characteristic, just as it's appearance is.
To: pandoraou812
A dealer is NOT a dealer.
There is a huge difference between a kid selling quarter bags and a real dealer.
And no misdemeanor is worth a felony raid.
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posted on
09/29/2006 11:21:10 AM PDT
by
stands2reason
(The map is not the territory - A. Korzybski)
To: William Terrell
Re: please rephrase.
""how would you deal with the savaging of peaceful people because of an herb that grows wild all over the world, and was made illegal because of jazz musicians, over the objections of the AMA?"
What is this? drama? Is it like eatin' dandelions, or what?
To: spunkets
Their are very few animals on this continent and most on the others that I'm not familiar with. We've got Dr. Doolittle here.
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posted on
09/29/2006 11:24:25 AM PDT
by
wireman
To: Hazcat
Or maybe the dealing will stop. What color is the sun in your solar system?
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posted on
09/29/2006 11:26:44 AM PDT
by
wireman
To: stands2reason
Probably way to reasonable for the WOD Nazis.
To: Sandy
Re: The dog wasn't collateral damage. It posed itself as a threat and it was taken out.
"What are you talking about? The dog was in his home. The swat team smashed in and shot him."
Collateral damage consists of innocents, or their property being injured, or destroyed. It was not the dog's home. The dog was property in the drug peddler's home and the home was raided under a valid warrant. The dog posed a threat to the cops making the legal bust. This swat team didn't enter unlawfully here.
To: wireman
" We've got Dr. Doolittle here."No, just old spunkets.
To: stands2reason
A dealer is NOT a dealer.
There is a huge difference between a kid selling quarter bags and a real dealer.
And no misdemeanor is worth a felony raid.
Maybe its not a worth a felony raid but how do you think dealers start out? Small, see a profit and go on to larger amounts. And how do you know unless you were in on the raid just what the police thought? What do you call a "real dealer"? Let me explain something to you....I went thru hell with 2 of my kids and drugs. 1st it was drinking and pot. Then it became dope. I tried everything I could to get them clean and I learned quite a bit about the dealers. Most of the dealers they were buying their heroin from were minors. They sold the dope but they didn't use it. They would ride up on their bikes get the money and come back with the drugs. I have had plenty of talks with my now straight children and they have told me all about their experiences. Anyone who sells drugs , be it a little bag of pot or a bag of dope is dealer. Same goes for the person who sells their friends a small amount so they can afford their own stash. I don't know what the answer to the war on drugs is but I do know it is not working.
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posted on
09/29/2006 11:34:06 AM PDT
by
pandoraou812
( barbaric with zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
To: PleaseNoMore
"Any dog worth anything will be vicious if someone breaks down the door to its home @ 6:00 AM and feels its owners lives are in danger. Geez."That's pretty obvious geez, except the personality of the breed matters. The point here is that both personality of the breed and the potential for harm count. They wouldn't have had to shoot a toy poodle.
To: stands2reason
One more thing to you.....How would you feel about this person you claim isn't a dealer selling pot to your 12 yr old? Because if you think he cares who he sells to then you are in denial. They don't care whom they sell to.
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posted on
09/29/2006 11:41:40 AM PDT
by
pandoraou812
( barbaric with zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
To: dontpethesweatythings
Excellent post!!!!!! Enough of this garbage.
To: spunkets
They wouldn't have had to shoot a toy poodle. No, but they probably would have anyway!
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posted on
09/29/2006 11:45:03 AM PDT
by
wireman
To: stopsign
Outstanding story, my friend!
To: Sir Gawain
personelly I think this raid was totally uncalled for.Not to mention the cost to tax payers. THe police could have knocked on the door with a warrant, when they knew all would be home and achieved the same results.
Guess it's just not as much fun as pointing a shotgun in the face of a 12 yr old girl.
I have no real problem with house raids as long as it's the right house and they get some BAD guys.
A high school kid selling pot to friends does't warrant this kind of raid....When I was a kid and the police knew you were selling pot they use to park a crusier in your driveway or on the street in front of your house and sit to let you know they knew what you were doing.
As far as the big dealers go they went after them.
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posted on
09/29/2006 11:51:10 AM PDT
by
Gone_Postal
(There's plenty of room for all God's creatures..right next to the mashed potatoes)
To: pandoraou812
How would you feel about this person you claim isn't a dealer selling pot to your 12 yr old? Personally, I'd care more about the reasons my 12-year-old son was smoking pot than I would about a two-bit dealer. The dealer isn't the problem; he's just pushing product. If he's not selling it to your 12-year-old son, he'll sell it to your 45-year-old neighbor instead. The problem is that your 12-year-old son thinks it's okay to be puffing the chronic.
To: spunkets
Is it like eatin' dandelions, or what? Ah, thank you.
It's less dangerous than eating dandelions. It's a natural herb, that, when smoked or cooked, gives a slight euphoria and is a specific for glaucoma, migraine headaches, nausea, among other ailments.
I can't understand how there is such a movement against it.
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posted on
09/29/2006 11:52:12 AM PDT
by
William Terrell
(Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
To: Gone_Postal
Police abuse is very common in our land.
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posted on
09/29/2006 11:57:26 AM PDT
by
unspun
(What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
To: pandoraou812
They don't care whom they sell to.Not true at ALL.
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posted on
09/29/2006 11:59:36 AM PDT
by
stands2reason
(The map is not the territory - A. Korzybski)
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