Children handcuffed in police drug raid (and SOP of shooting the family dog)

Albany Times Union ^

[Sir Gawain]

"We got the dawg boys. Yee haw!"

[spunkets]

"The dog, a pit bull terrier named Precious, urinated on the floor in fear and tried to run from the police before it was killed, Woodyear said."

ROTFLMAO! The woman's lying.

[metmom]

The dog, a pit bull terrier named Precious,...

How did I know that was coming when I read that the police killed the dog?

[Lurker]

The woman's lying.

Prove it.

L

[DougSc]

Don't sell drugs!!!

[elkfersupper]

They always kill the dog.

[metmom]

Elijah Bradley said he awoke to find armed men in his home. "They had the shotgun in my face," the 11-year-old said.

Question here. Not being personally familar with knock-the-door-down police drug raids, is it typical or even heard of, for police officers to carry and use shotguns?

[muawiyah]

Several years back a couple of Indianapolis cops shot a guy's dogs right in his fenced front yard. He objected so they chased him into his house where he shot both of them to death.

They didn't have a warrant so he walked.

These cops had a warrant. Now, was this dog a Bichon Frise or that other dangerous breed, the Toy Poodle?

[metmom]

FYI only ping

[mugs99]

In the fifties an early morning knock on the door was the milkman. The milkman is gone...replaced by thugs with guns...revolting!
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[mdittmar]

Just Damn,no drug dealers here that would hide drugs on their kids or have pit bulls around their kids.

[Blood of Tyrants]

All for $60 in pot....

[spunkets]

Re: The woman's lying.

"Prove it."

LOL! I ain't the med examiner, so I can't do the tests to determine the chemistry at the time of death, or note entry exit wounds. I will say that I have absolutely no doubt that this dog got vicious and was about to attack. It's a friggin' pit and they are ALWAYS MEAN and NASTY to strangers upsetting the household. It's that simple. If you want to believe in fairy tale stories of gentle pits that pee and run when they're confronted by strangers upseting the household, go right ahead, but I'll just have to LMAO at htose stories.

[patton]

Absolutely common - the m1200 shotgun, aka the "Trench broom", has been a common weapon of war/police since it was invented.

The US v. Miller decision, "there is no military application of a shotgun..." was so wrong on it's face that people still laugh at the idiot judges.

Of course, since they were USSC judges, it is now law.

[PJBankard]

Yes, police officers have been known to carry and use a shotgun during duty. Their primary weapon is their pistol but the a shotgun is usually carried in a police cruiser. It is used in cases when extra fire power is possibly needed, usually during a raid or a shootout.

[verum ago]

so the kids were handcuffed. cry about it. look at the 11 year old: a kid stupid or scared/irrational enough to try to punch a cop with a shotgun on him is also stupid enough to get any gun that may be in the house and try to shoot a cop. pepper spray is better than 9mm pacification

the cops also have a point: if you don't want raids happening, don't let your kids deal drugs in your home

as for the dog, who knows. It's a she-said he-said. Dogs don't just pee out of fear specifically. They pee out of agitation-- it's part of a fight or flight response -- the dog could've been ready to attack. (trigger happy cop or vicious dog, I don't know).

all in all I'm inclined to go with the cops on this one-- if this woman and her family are this combative right now, they could've really been a handful during the raid. And their whole street is apparently a drug supermarket-- you can never exercise too much caution in a place like that.

[Lurker]

It would have been a lot simpler if you'd simply responded "I can't".

But thanks for playing our little game.

L

[LibKill]

I propose that any policeman who shoots a dog be relieved of all liability if:

1. He can show, and medical personell who are NOT in the same employ agree, that the dog bit him/her.

2. That the dog left teeth marks in his body armor or impact weapon (billy club).

3. That a jury of 12 dog owners find that the dog was vicious and needed killing.

All that time, the body of the dog will be frozen. If the cop is found innocent, he/she will get medal.

If the cop is found guilty, the cop will be locked in a cell and served nothing but dog until:

A. the corpse of the dog has been completely consumed by the cop.

B. the cop dies of starvation.

Amen.

[Redcloak]

It's all for the chirlins, doncha know.