Bailey (Col.) School Hostage Situation (Update: Standoff over, 1 student and perp dead)

CBS4 Denver ^ | 9/27/06 | cbs4denver

[Rte66]

Her dad was an early dot-commer, having co-ownership of a local ISP. It has been sold and his name isn't on the resulting entity, but I see other docs that say it should be.

That's one thing I found.

[ftriggerf]

"suicide note to a relative in Colorado. He did not reveal the contents of that note, pending its analysis, but did say investigators discovered the note's existence after one of Morrison's weapons was traced to a family member. ..."

Is Chapman the bil? If not, who IS Chapman?

[HuntsvilleTxVeteran]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1710745/posts?page=1

Update on above thread!

[Rte66]

I don't know. I've been wading through a bunch of documents for the past 2 hours and haven't found a sister or a sister's married name yet.

However, he has three brothers in the Denver area - all living in nice houses, long-time residents - 4-bdrm homes, wives, probably children, grandchildren. Two live together in Centennial and one in Westminster at an address that he had used, also.

Not what I expected to find for the homeless guy. Still working on it, but going to see the update - maybe more clues.

[CindyDawg]

Can you believe we have two different threads going, regarding school shootings? I had a very hard time reading this article. The pain , fear and humiliation these girls went thru.... It might have been worse but I was wondering what would have happened, if instead of facing the wall as told and dreading "their turn" if these girls had refused and took him down.

[OrangeDaisy]

Fury & OldFriend, since you were discussing locked doors, do either of you know how this guy got in? That topic is never mentioned in the news stories. In the schools around where I live, every visitor must come through the front door and sign in. All other doors are locked, and alarms sound if the doors are opened. I'm not saying someone couldn't try to slip in during the confusion of students arriving for the day, but it's likely a 54-year old male would be noticed immediately.

[Brad’s Gramma]

These girls and their families are going to need to be covered in prayer, lots of prayer....for a LONG time...

[Fury]

Re: #726

I don't think there's been a discussion on how the murderer got in the school. Based on the reports I've seen, students reported encountering a person with a hoodie up over his head.

Also in reading, it's been reported that the school had some security measures that were supposed to make it more difficult for non-students to enter unnoticed. I don't know what these are, but can surmise things access control points, all exterior doors locked, etc are some of those measures.

There will certainly be an after action review to determine how he got in. I would expect the school district could be liable, if they did not follow the policies & procedures they had in place. I will disagree with fellow posters that students and teachers being armed would have resolved this problem. Until it is known how the murderer got in the building and moved about the building on his way to the classroom where the students were taken hostage, I believe it's premature to discuss if weapons being carried by staff and students would have made a difference in this tragic event.

[OldFriend]

Seemingly, he just walked right in. There was supposed to be police officer there EVERY day, but he was elsewhere.

That part of the story has not been told, but I assure you there will be questions asked.

[OldFriend]

I agree that they are going to need our prayers.

[CindyDawg]

Yep.

[CindyDawg]

I think he was dressed as and went in as a student. Bad people, determined to kill are going to find ways to get around every security we put up. I used to think smaller schools were the answer where everyone knows everyone. The kid still shot a principal today though. However he just didn't walk in. He was IDed by the janitor so this still might be the best option. Maybe.

[OldFriend]

We will never be totally safe from those who would do us harm.

Making locked down prisons of our schools is not the answer.

I just wish I knew the answer.......because this is just about the saddest school invasion ever.

Shooting to kill is horrible, but what this animal did to those girls is going to be with them forever.

[OldFriend]

The bastard had a Glock and a 357 magnum. What do you think would have happened if they rushed him?

[CindyDawg]

These girls did what they thought they had to do to survive. It worked for 5 of them. I have no problem with that. I might have done the same. My thought though was do we need to teach our kids to fight back? It's not just schools that this can happen at. We have our home grown crazies in addition to terrorists. We aren't going to stop all of them. Do we need to react differently? I don't know.

[OldFriend]

We don't fight back with a man with a Glock and a 357 Magnum. He put a gun to the head of a male student.

[CindyDawg]

I don't think that really happened unless something else has came out since.

[OldFriend]

So the student that said he wanted to stay in the room but had the gun put to his head was lying?

[CindyDawg]

If we are talking about the same kid, I don't think he was even in the class. I don't like the word lying here and I do call liars , liars. I think he just got caught up in what he wished had happened and apologized. That took a lot of courage IMO.

[CindyDawg]

See the link at 668