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To: finnman69

ohboyohboy! Do we get to see Piltdown Man?! Such is the quality of "proof" of Darwinism...


377 posted on 09/27/2006 8:52:38 PM PDT by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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To: 13Sisters76
ohboyohboy! Do we get to see Piltdown Man?! Such is the quality of "proof" of Darwinism...

At least two mistakes.

Piltdown was a hoax which was quickly figured out because it didn't fit. Friedrichs and Weidenreich had both, by about 1932, published their research suggesting the lower jaws and molars were that of an orang. They were correct. The final debunking in the early 1950s was just icing on the cake. And it was paleontologists and other evolutionary specialists who figured it out, not creationists.

Second, you should know that no theory is science is considered "proved." A theory is simply the best explanation we have for the data--and its an explanation that has withstood many tests. There is also the hypothesis, which is an idea which may or may be supported by data, and which has not yet withstood many tests. The theory of evolution passed that stage over a century ago.

Your attempt at humor is noted, but in making these two very noticeable mistakes you have only made yourself look silly.

382 posted on 09/27/2006 9:02:01 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: 13Sisters76
ohboyohboy! Do we get to see Piltdown Man?! Such is the quality of "proof" of Darwinism...

I LOVE it when your type (you don't mind if I classify you as "your type," do you?) brings up Piltdown Man.

Piltdown Man is a triumph for TToE. As long as there as been science and money associated with it, there have been scam artists who want to take advantage of it for the bucks.

But science itself, in its operational methods, exposed Piltdown Man and showed how was a hoax.

Unbeknownst to many, there are passionate, knock-down, drag out fights within the TToE community about the meaning and proper placement of new AND OLD data as they continue to strive for the proper framework.

And singling out a single (or even several) hoaxes as undermining TToE is like singling out Cold Fusion as undermining Physics.

And now that Pluto isn't a planet, I guess it is time to toss Astronomy out the window.

Now, let us contrast with Religion. And I'll start with Scientology... (need I go on, or will you force me to bring in islam?)

383 posted on 09/27/2006 9:02:13 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ("Critical Thinking"="I don't understand it so it must be wrong.")
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To: 13Sisters76; finnman69
ohboyohboy! Do we get to see Piltdown Man?! Such is the quality of "proof" of Darwinism...

Ironically, it helped confirm the ToE. See, Piltdown went against Darwin's prediction that humans evolved in Africa. When the real transitionals started being found in Africa and Asia in the 1920s, Piltdown became a real anomaly - it was in the wrong place, and its mosaic of human-like and ape-like features contradicted the other fossils. When it was finally shown to be a fake, no-one was really surprised. As usual, Darwin was vindicated in one of his predictions.

410 posted on 09/28/2006 3:57:57 AM PDT by Virginia-American (What do you call an honest creationist? An evolutionist.)
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