[RogueIsland]

Sounds like just another way to turn honest folks into criminals by judicial fiat to me.

[Bigh4u2]

""A glove compartment is a small storage cabinet in the dashboard of an automobile," Justice Donald C. Wintersheimer wrote in the opinion."

Bullcrap!

Both my TransAm and Corvette have no 'storage cabinet' in the dashboard. They only have a center console which is also the 'glove box'.

Talk about nit picking.

[domenad]

Never thought I'd be coming down on the side of a guy named Mohammed. Not this century, at any rate.

[EternalVigilance]

*file under "judicial insanity:*

[beelzepug]

I'd be more concerned that somebody named Mohammad was carrying a gun AT ALL.

[taxesareforever]

Scott also noted that several newer vehicles do not have glove compartments as defined by the majority of the court.

And what does this have to do with the cost of tea in China? If the sun isn't seen at the North Pole in mid of winter it doesn't reduce the definition of the sun. On second thought, maybe it does in this judge's mind.

[NonValueAdded]

I'd like to know when the legislature wrote that provision - were center consoles even in use then? If "on the seat" is one of the options, then ease of access doesn't seem to be the issue. And whether or not the compartment can be locked means nothing if there is no requirement for it to be locked if containing a firearm. A hyper-technical ruling that demonstrates the difference between the law and justice, the former being a murderer getting off because of an inconsequential typo on a warrant application, the latter being that same just-released murderer getting hit by a bus as he exits the courthouse.

[rhombus]

Who the heck is the judge to define the definition of a glove compartment? If he thinks it needs further definition he should throw it back to the legislature.

[GretchenM]

A pathetic case of splitting glove leather.

Gloves CAN be stored in the center console.

Have the courts nothing better to do?

[AnnaZ]

Kentucky's concealed weapons law allows someone to carry a gun in the car, either in the glove compartment "regularly installed in a motor vehicle by its manufacturer," on the seat or in the trunk.

So the gun could be on the seat, but not in the console? What rubbish, and whaddabunchamaroons.

[ZULU]

Perhaps Fadi should have gotten a Jewish attorney.

Unfortuantely, I agree with the Supreme Court here.

[demkicker]

Does anyone know more of Fadi Mohammad's story? Why was he pulled over in the first place?

From what I've read in this article, the Supremes ruling is ridiculous. What difference does it make if one stores a gun in a glove compartment or a console between the seats?

[Captain Rhino]

All this wouldn't have happened if Fadi Mohammad hadn't been stopped for drunken driving.

Wait a minute...Fadi Mohammad...Mohammad...MOHAMMAD! Drunk driving! Mohammad, alcohol...uh oh, somebody's going to be in trouble down at the local mosque.

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[DoughtyOne]

Kentucky's concealed weapons law allows someone to carry a gun in the car, either in the glove compartment "regularly installed in a motor vehicle by its manufacturer," on the seat or in the trunk.

If a gun is allowed on a car seat, it is hard to imagine the gun in the center compartment as being more problematic. The concealed nature is of concern, but so would be the concealed nature of the 'glove box'.

I don't see a compelling cause here. What is unclear is if the person actually had a concealed weapons permit. Since we are addressing the issue of whether the console is a glove box, it's seems they are trying to define what the permit allows. That would imply he did have one.

It seems like a pretty strident attempt to enforce a rule rather than determine intent. I realize intent isn't a valid determinant, but this is a little over the top IMPO.

He was charge with driving while inebriated. That seems appropriate.

[neverdem]

"Whether gloves fit into other compartments is immaterial because the phrase 'glove compartment' was expressly adopted by the General Assembly and retains the plain meaning as a compartment located in the dashboard of a vehicle," Wintersheimer wrote.

I'll grant that the wording of the law failed to take into account vehicles without traditional a 'glove compartment.' At least they didn't engage in activist nonsense. IMHO, the fault lies with the drafting of the legislation.

[aligncare]

Can you imagine being the person to go to jail because you stored your weapon a foot and a half from where it is legal to store...

[TXBubba]

I was going to ask why it mattered as long as the gun was in a compartment to keep it from flying around the car. But then I read that having it on the seat of the car was okay. That doesn't make sense to me. It's okay to be laying on the seat but not in the center console? Strange.

[SFC Chromey]

"Kentucky's concealed weapons law allows someone to carry a gun in the car, either in the glove compartment "regularly installed in a motor vehicle by its manufacturer," on the seat or in the trunk. "

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So, it's ok if the gun is floating across a seat through turns, but not ok if it is secured in a console between the seats.
Wow, this is micro-managing at its best!

oh yeah, I'm always a little concerned about armed Mohammeds, but this is one more time the judiciary is way out of whack! Not everyone drives a Mercedez Benz you idiot judge.

[marktwain]

It is just a way for the judges to justify their anti-gun desires. We had a ruling in Arizona that was just the opposite. The statute said that if the gun was in a case designed to carry weapons, it was not concealed.

The appeals court ruled that a fanny pack, though it was a "case designed to carry weapons" *and was recognized by the officer as such*, which is why he decided to search it, did not qualify because they decided that the legislature did not mean what the statute said, and that the weapon had to be "displayed in such a way that an ordinary person would be given notice that the person carrying the weapon was armed".

[RicocheT]

The court's ruling did not follow established law on interpreting a legislature's writings.

The right to carry is a constitutional right and a law limiting such a right by a law must be interpreted in a narrow way to not overly expand the infringement of rights.

Therefore a glove compartment regularly installed in vehicles would include similar compartments-the center console compartment.