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To: Clemenza
Uh, if you look at the comments that were made by the white trash of Southie during the bussing crisis, ("we don't want those animals in our schools", etc), you would have a different opinion. Of course, being a "townie", you probably have a "defensive" position.

Gee, sounds a lot like an FR immigration or Muslim thread.

You honestly don't see anything wrong with busing? Were you ever affected by it? They should have bused to Wellesley and Dover and Brookline: everyone in Southie could have been racist to the core, and it wouldn't have made a bit of practical difference in the lives of blacks. Southie people weren't the ones in charge of hiring and firing and promotions and college admissions. It was the "liberals" in the suburbs who pushed busing the hardest.

They couldn't have thought of a better way to poison race relations if they'd pondered for years. Well, I guess theyn did.

58 posted on 09/23/2006 12:01:31 PM PDT by maryz
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To: maryz
Oh, PUH-LEEZE! I've heard this "working class hero" BS my entire life (often from aunts and uncles).

It would be one thing if South Boston was its own municipality, and the "powers that be" decided to take kids from another town, thereby taking away the independence of the local school board. Boston is a SMALL CITY, however, with a consolidated school board. Sending kids from Roxbury to South Boston (or from Jamaica Plain to the North End for that matter) was simply taking kids from one part of town (that had overcrowded schools) to another (one where the schools were at 65% capacity, as many Southie parents sent their kids to parochial schools).

The PWTs in South Boston were not, as they thought, some "island" that would be "protected" from outside forces. They were part of a CONSOLIDATED SCHOOL DISTRICT and it was, from my perspective, artificial and unrealistic that they thought they could keep their high schools racially and geographically homogeneous. Then again, despite their poverty, they were used to having their fat a-ses kissed by the Irish Mafia that ran Boston for so many years, all the while pissing on every other ethnic group (even "white ethnics" like the Jews and Italians) who came afterwards.

Public schools are by their nature open to all. If you do not like the other races/religions/ethnic groups that live in your city or town, go and move to another place where others are "like you."

In any event, the low lives of Southie showed their true colors back in the 1970s and deserved all the scorn that they received. They lived in projects, depended on government employment, and still acted like their sh-t didn't stink.

Southie, like Roxbury and (pre gentrification) Jamaica Plain were/are the type of places where the upwardly mobile and intelligent move, leaving behind the tunnel visioned schlubs who remain mired in cultural and economic backwardness. Their is NO NOBILITY in poverty and ignorance.

Also, if you take and take from city hall, expect city hall to expect you to "do what you are told" on the plantation that is the government teat. This was as true for the low class whites of South Boston as it is for the blacks in Roxbury or the Dominicans in Jamaica Plain.

82 posted on 09/23/2006 8:13:00 PM PDT by Clemenza (Dave? Dave?)
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