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American Jews wrestle with whether to suggest non-Jewish spouses convert
Boston Herald ^ | 09/21/2006 | Associated Press

Posted on 09/21/2006 4:15:01 PM PDT by Nachum

NEW YORK - Christine Benvenuto embodies a Jewish ideal.

Her kitchen is kosher, she attends synagogue and has read rabbinic writings and Torah.

But for many American Jewish leaders, she has an even more compelling quality. The mother of three, whose husband was born Jewish, is a convert.

“A lot of things attracted me to Judaism,” said Benvenuto, whose book “Shiksa” chronicles her path to conversion and the choices of other non-Jewish spouses. “I grew up in a Jewish neighborhood in New York and my friends were always Jewish.”

As intermarriage continues at a high rate, many community leaders believe the survival of Judaism lies with people like Benvenuto. Over the last year, top rabbis have urged Jews to overcome their fear of offending non-Jewish spouses and suggest outright that they convert.

Rabbi Eric Yoffie, president of the Union for Reform Judaism, and Rabbi Jerome Epstein, executive vice president of the United Synagogue for Conservative Judaism, each called for a more assertive approach at national religious meetings of their movements in the last year. Together, their organizations represent about 75 percent of North American synagogue members.

The American Jewish Committee, a leading advocacy group based in New York, released the first major study in nearly two decades of why people decide to become Jewish. Among the central findings is that advocating for conversion works.

Even some Orthodox, who have traditionally discouraged conversion, have joined in.

Rabbi Leib Tropper, who runs a school in Monsey, N.Y., for Jews who lack basic religious education, started Eternal Jewish Family a year ago to train rabbinic courts on proper conversion for non-Jewish spouses. Tropper says hundreds of rabbis have attended the training sessions.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: convert; jewish; spouses
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1 posted on 09/21/2006 4:15:02 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum
I think intermarriage is not wise in the first place. If you can't see eye-to-eye on your faith, then God says you are unequally yoked. He didn't even want Israel to marry non-Israelites.

Anyone who marries outside their faith has little or no faith.
2 posted on 09/21/2006 4:21:18 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: Nachum

rubber stamp reform and conservative conversions aren't going to help the matter. and the line about orthodox Rabbis being hesitant to convert a non-Jewish spouse (not a girlfriend or boyfriend) is silly. i seriously doubt the legitimacy of this statement.


3 posted on 09/21/2006 4:22:38 PM PDT by APRPEH (id theft info available on my profile page)
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To: Nachum

4 posted on 09/21/2006 4:24:17 PM PDT by APRPEH (id theft info available on my profile page)
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To: Nachum

The fact that they have this debate suggests they don't believe their own religion. How could you wilfully sit by an watch your spouse go to hell?


5 posted on 09/21/2006 4:24:38 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: ConservativeMind
Anyone who marries outside their faith has little or no "faith."

This is true, but consider this: such marriages will sometimes trigger a soul-searching at some point and lead one or both of the people to faith. Seen it happen.

And conversely, a husband and wife can nominally worship the same way and still wind up in a marriage from hell. (I've REALLY seen that.)

6 posted on 09/21/2006 4:25:25 PM PDT by Al Simmons (I am sorely AFFECTED by the social EFFECT of people's confusion over these two simple words..)
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To: Al Simmons

I agree with both of your points.


7 posted on 09/21/2006 4:26:11 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: Brilliant

Because it was more important to be able to have sex with them or be supported by them.

In one word: Selfishness.


8 posted on 09/21/2006 4:28:30 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: Nachum

I imagine 'Christine' is not a popular baby name among Jews...


9 posted on 09/21/2006 4:29:49 PM PDT by Sloth ('It Takes A Village' is problematic when you're raising your child in Sodom.)
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To: Brilliant

That's the problem with major religions. They each preach that all the others will go to hell.

It's not a big leap to the position that you might as well kill those unbelievers right now.

It even happens within the major religions. Shi'ite vs Sunni, Catholic vs Protestant.


10 posted on 09/21/2006 4:30:56 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: rmlew; Yehuda; firebrand; Coleus

ping


11 posted on 09/21/2006 4:37:12 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Brilliant

Jews do not teach or beleive that non-Jews will go to 'hell'.


12 posted on 09/21/2006 4:40:14 PM PDT by hlmencken3 (Originalist on the the 'general welfare' clause? No? NOT an originalist!)
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To: ConservativeMind

Hopefully, there will be a remnant left to be saved. The Jewish race is doomed to extinction if they don't act to stem the tide of abortion, secularization, and other non"breeder" efforts of mainstream jewish life.


13 posted on 09/21/2006 4:45:10 PM PDT by x_plus_one (Muslim immigration breaks democracy into a self-defeating system .)
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To: APRPEH

***...and the line about orthodox Rabbis being hesitant to convert a non-Jewish spouse (not a girlfriend or boyfriend) is silly. i seriously doubt the legitimacy of this statement.***

I don't doubt that statement. I suspect, though I don't know for sure, that orthodox rabbis understand that a conversion only to please a spouse is not a true conversion, and that it can only lead to suppressed anger against the convert's spouse later. Again, I'm only guessing from what I know of other religions.


14 posted on 09/21/2006 4:46:17 PM PDT by kitkat (The first step down to hell is to deny the existence of evil.)
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To: hlmencken3

Interesting. So what's the point of being a Jew, then?


15 posted on 09/21/2006 4:46:19 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: ConservativeMind

My wife's neice married a jew. The problem is not that she was raised Catholic, the problem is her mother in law.


16 posted on 09/21/2006 4:46:39 PM PDT by UB355 (Slower I(t was greatTraffic Keep Right)
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To: Nachum

Self-Hating Jews in so-called "Orthodox" groups are straying from the Torah.

Jews do not convert non-Jews for the sake of marriage. Haven't in the past, won't in the future.


17 posted on 09/21/2006 4:48:45 PM PDT by Yaakov The Orator
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To: Sloth

Funny that you mention that, but as a child I knew a couple of Jewish girls who were named Natalie (which means Christmas). Somebody compromised, I guess.


18 posted on 09/21/2006 4:49:32 PM PDT by two134711 ("To take no notice of a violent attack is to strengthen the heart of the enemy.")
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To: Yaakov The Orator

I've heard it's difficult to convert in any case, and that's by design, as they want to make sure the person is serious enough about it to jump through a few hoops.


19 posted on 09/21/2006 4:50:55 PM PDT by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: Brilliant
The fact that they have this debate suggests they don't believe their own religion. How could you wilfully sit by an watch your spouse go to hell?

Judaism does not teach that non-Jews necessarily go to hell.

20 posted on 09/21/2006 4:51:47 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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