[Snickering Hound]

Think of all the money gubmint is missing out of by not issuing tickets to people making legal right turns!

[muawiyah]

Right on red does not mean you don't have to stop.

No doubt the ordinance will get rewritten, but think of how many devil-may-care, dangerous drivers they have there in Houston.

Definitely not a place to go to do business.

[Red Badger]

Right on Red, it's an American right...........

[2harddrive]

I've heard that they are shortening the yellow light time so much, that it basically goes straight from green to RED, in an attempt to boost ticket revenues and pay bigger retirements to city employees. Any truth to that, outside of California?

[Logical me]

Entering the intersection when the light is green to make a left turn is a way of life here in Southern California. Sometimes traffic blocks the turn and the light turns yellow and red. Most Californians complete the left turn. If we did not sometimes it would be impossible to make a left turn with oncoming traffic. At least one car is able to make the left. Traffic is bad enough here, why make situations that has been the normal method just to satisfy some crappy red light cameras and a city that is hungry for revenue.

And don't give me this sh@@ you are not supposed to enter to make a left unless the traffic will allow. If we obeyed every traffic law we might as well stay home. Try Southern California traffic.

[Always Right]

Think of all the money gubmint is missing out of by not issuing tickets to people making legal right turns!

Costing governments around the country hundreds of billions of dollars. They will fix that loophole real quick.

[Aunt Polgara]

Great website on how to beat these tickets:

http://www.highwayrobbery.net/

The towns around here are starting to put them in, and we have responded by refusing to do business in the towns that have them.

The towns do it for the money, not because of any perceived safety benefits.

[my_pointy_head_is_sharp]

"As with any new ordinance, we would always look for ways to make improvements, particularly if it involves public safety"

Translation: As with any new ordinance, we would always look for ways to make improvements make money, particularly if it involves public safety city revenue.

[Jennee06]

So does this excluding the right on red thing apply to california too? because today the light was yellow so i slowed down and turned right, cause the light was yellow but i think as i was passing thru or something the light turned red cause there was a flash from the camera! this was on gridley ave. and south street in the city of cerritos.....please give me some info!