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It’s Muslim Boy Meets Girl, but Don’t Call It Dating
new york times ^ | 9/19/06 | NEIL MacFARQUHAR

Posted on 09/19/2006 11:23:43 AM PDT by mathprof

So here’s the thing about speed dating for Muslims.

Many American Muslims — or at least those bent on maintaining certain conservative traditions — equate anything labeled “dating” with hellfire, no matter how short a time is involved. Hence the wildly popular speed dating sessions at the largest annual Muslim conference in North America were given an entirely more respectable label. They were called the “matrimonial banquet.”

“If we called it speed dating, it will end up with real dating,” said Shamshad Hussain, one of the organizers, grimacing.

Both the banquet earlier this month and various related seminars underscored the difficulty that some American Muslim families face in grappling with an issue on which many prefer not to assimilate. One seminar, called “Dating,” promised attendees helpful hints for “Muslim families struggling to save their children from it.”

The couple of hundred people attending the dating seminar burst out laughing when Imam Muhamed Magid of the Adams Center, a collective of seven mosques in Virginia, summed up the basic instructions that Muslim American parents give their adolescent children, particularly males: “Don’t talk to the Muslim girls, ever, but you are going to marry them. As for the non-Muslim girls, talk to them, but don’t ever bring one home.”

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Yasmeen Qadri, suggested that Muslim mothers across the continent band together in an organization called “Mothers Against Dating,” modeled on Mothers Against Drunk Driving. If the term “arranged marriage” is too distasteful to the next generation, she said, then perhaps the practice could be Americanized simply by renaming it “assisted marriage,” just like assisted living for the elderly.

“In the United States we can play with words however we want, but we are not trying to set aside our cultural values,” said Mrs. Qadri, a professor of education.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: islam; muslims; rop
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To: mathprof

Muslim boy meets girl, then puts her in a cage and a burka.


61 posted on 09/19/2006 5:56:18 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: mathprof

If they couldn't make a living here, they would have to go back to their Muslim countries.


62 posted on 09/19/2006 5:57:52 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: redstates4ever

Son, you are thirty years old and have yet to blow yourself up. What are you going to do with your life?

63 posted on 09/19/2006 6:01:48 PM PDT by Roscoe Karns
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To: redstates4ever


Which one's the dude? They both need a shave.
64 posted on 09/19/2006 7:00:18 PM PDT by seowulf
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To: thoughtomator
A "Muslim date" is a euphemism for a combination rape and murder.

In other words "giving it to them 'Leb style'."
65 posted on 09/19/2006 7:02:15 PM PDT by seowulf
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To: Hound of the Baskervilles

"We should try to detach ourselves from our fears and look at situations that turned out better than we expected them to."

Neville? Neville Chamberlain? Is that you?

And the Catholics... in the Bible did it say that non believers should be lied to in order to gain advantage? Did the pope preach that Catholics should crusade against the Jews and Hindus, and all other non believers? (Yeah, yeah, there were crusades, against islam, in response to islamic aggression, over 600 years ago, and the crusaders lost). Did the local Catholic priests preach holy war and killing? Where is it in the Bible that killing oneself for God will grant you rewards in heaven? The penalty for leaving Catholicism these days, death? The Catholics... their weapons of mass destruction... a catapult? Fire? I don't recall reading about Catholics building nukes to get rid of another group, can you show me where that is?

I have nothing against other religions. I live near the Amish, (odd people in my view, but it's their right). I work with Hindus, and Jews, I find them to be great people. Differences don't scare me. People who want to kill me, at any cost, including blowing up their own children, they bother me. People who want to tell me I should try to empathize with the folks who want me dead... I have no time for that.

muslims understand one thing only, power. Our only course of action that will perserve our way of life is to contain the animals, and deliver punishment as required. Eventually, the "good muslims" will either abandon the death cult, or will change the core of islam. I don't think it can be changed. islam is a death cult. It's a cult with a governmental system built in. There can be no separation of islam and state.

If you coddle a rattle snake, it will bite you. That's what snakes do.


66 posted on 09/19/2006 8:03:41 PM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: sneakers

"Actually, on second thought, I guess "smart" doesn't really describe her. :-("

We all make mistakes. Let's hope that the man she is going to marry is a good man, in spite of belonging to the death cult.

Good luck to all of you.


67 posted on 09/19/2006 8:05:31 PM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: Hound of the Baskervilles
Yo, Baskerville, when was the last time you heard of an "Honor Killing," in any Christian group?

How many Baptists are strapping on the dynamite tonight?
How many Congregationalists exploded IEDs as Episcopal cars approached their church?

When is the last time someone shot a Hospital Sister in Northern Ireland?

Let's meet and discuss this in the First Methodists' Church Hall in Riyadh.

68 posted on 09/19/2006 10:39:04 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (What does it matter if we’re all dead, as long as the French respect us.)
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To: Kenny Bunk
"Yo, Baskerville, when was the last time you heard of an "Honor Killing," in any Christian group?"

I know, I know but that's not what THIS article is about. And it seems to me that if you can't read anything about Muslims without getting all war-like and freaked out you need to calm down a few notches. Just my opinion.

69 posted on 09/19/2006 10:46:05 PM PDT by Hound of the Baskervilles ("Nonsense in the intellect draws evil after it." C.S. Lewis)
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To: brownsfan
"muslims understand one thing only, power."

I will not go along with this kind of bombastic, inflammatory generalization. Sorry bout that.

70 posted on 09/19/2006 10:54:32 PM PDT by Hound of the Baskervilles ("Nonsense in the intellect draws evil after it." C.S. Lewis)
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To: Night Hides Not
"it's ok to date women with tattoos and body piercings, but you won't want to marry one"

I tell my children, "be careful whom you choose to date, you will eventually marry one of them."

71 posted on 09/19/2006 10:55:37 PM PDT by wai-ming
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To: sneakers
The naive idiot doesn't know what she's in for! Keep her in your prayers, please.

Does he have family outside the US? Please make sure she understands the dangerous position she is in if they visit his country.

Women in love can be headstrong. Prayers for your family.

72 posted on 09/19/2006 11:12:53 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: Dianna

Does he have family outside the US? Please make sure she understands the dangerous position she is in if they visit his country.

One favorite trick of Muslim men is once they tire of their infidel wives, they dump them by leaving the country to their homeland and take their kids with them. The wife then is husbandless and childless, as hubby has copped off with the kids. Happens over and over. This woman is dumb as a rock. She may have a few good years with this guy, but then the odds of it ending badly increase over time, and when he tires of her, she loses bigtime. Hope she doesn't have kids, but if she is in her 30's, she probably feels that old biological clock ticking. She gets a Darwin award and will undoubtedly pay for her ignorance of the Muslim culture, and the nature of the Muslim male. Sad but true.


73 posted on 09/19/2006 11:20:08 PM PDT by flaglady47 (Thinking out Loud)
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To: flaglady47; sneakers
Hope she doesn't have kids, but if she is in her 30's, she probably feels that old biological clock ticking. She gets a Darwin award and will undoubtedly pay for her ignorance of the Muslim culture, and the nature of the Muslim male. Sad but true.

The woman is already pregnant. It must be a terrible thing to watch this from the sidelines and be unable to get the woman to listen.

74 posted on 09/19/2006 11:23:17 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: Hound of the Baskervilles

"I will not go along with this kind of bombastic, inflammatory generalization. Sorry bout that."

I'm sorry if the realities of the situation are too much for you. I recognize it's not pretty, and not a happy time. In the late 1930s there were lots of folks who felt about the Nazis the way you feel about muslims now.

The parallel is real, and scary.


75 posted on 09/20/2006 5:35:33 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: brownsfan
I don't know a single Christian who, in my entire lifetime, was told to marry exclusively in their faith.

I do. Irish Catholicism runs pretty strong in these parts (greater Boston). And my grandmother's very disappointed my son's going to be baptized a Protestant and not a Catholic.

76 posted on 09/20/2006 5:44:59 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
"I do. Irish Catholicism runs pretty strong in these parts (greater Boston). And my grandmother's very disappointed my son's going to be baptized a Protestant and not a Catholic."

In the muslim world that makes him apostate, and he would be killed. Equivalence? Somehow, call me crazy, but I don't see the equivalence between "very disappointed" and death.

I'm sure that there are people who wish their relatives would marry in the faith, I don't know any, but I'm sure they exist. But it's at this point, it's not an official position of the church. Christians are quite tolerant these days, contrary to the raving left's impression of Christians.
77 posted on 09/20/2006 5:50:50 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: brownsfan
In the muslim world that makes him apostate, and he would be killed. Equivalence? Somehow, call me crazy, but I don't see the equivalence between "very disappointed" and death.

It's not what you posited, though. You said you didn't know of a single Christian who was told to marry exclusively in their faith. I do. While a modern American (or even "Western") Christian might not be inspired to kill because of it, the sentiment definitely still exists---at least in my neck of the woods.

78 posted on 09/20/2006 5:59:49 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

"It's not what you posited, though. "

Granted. Sometimes I lack the precision I'd like to have here. In a flowing conversation, these points are more readily clarified.


79 posted on 09/20/2006 6:58:50 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: Hound of the Baskervilles
if you can't read anything about Muslims without getting all war-like...

You're correct. I cannot.

80 posted on 09/20/2006 7:38:51 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (What does it matter if we’re all dead, as long as the French respect us.)
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