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To: ansel12
The truth is often found in the most inconvenient places. That web site you linked avoids the whole question of employee health care. The writer deals with the issue as a philosophical matter. He takes the position that employers have no duty to provide any benefits to workers. That may have been true in the early 1900's. That is not true today. Most employers offer decent wages and health care benefits. WM elects to provide the minimum.

I take the simple position that WM is allowing the government to provide health care benefits. Guess that is why WM's CEO has been on the news and in television ads talking about these issues? He must be worried about people learning the truth.

74 posted on 09/16/2006 9:28:44 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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To: ex-Texan

Here is a short little release by your movement, and it makes clear your politics. Why you thought linking us to wakeupwalmart.com would persuade conservatives to support the union movement, and the left is beyond me.



Starting August 1, 2006 in New York City, WakeUpWalMart.com started a 19-state, 35-day tour of 35 cities across the country. By mid-August the bus was in Iowa, where a number of presidential hopefuls also happened to be. On August 15 Sen. Evan Bayh (D-IN) participated in an event in front of the Linn County Court House in Cedar Rapids; on August 16 Sen. Joe Biden (D-DE) participated in a press conference at the Iowa State Historical building in Des Moines; and on August 17 Gov. Bill Richardson (D-NM) and Gov. Tom Vilsack (D-IA) participated in a town hall meeting at Sullivan Brothers Convention Center in Waterloo. WakeUpWalMart.com is a project of the United Food and Commercial Workers Union.


82 posted on 09/16/2006 9:42:22 AM PDT by ansel12 (Life is exquisite... of great beauty, keenly felt.)
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To: ex-Texan
he writer deals with the issue as a philosophical matter. He takes the position that employers have no duty to provide any benefits to workers. That may have been true in the early 1900's. That is not true today.

Duty? Since when is there a "duty" to provide benefits? Benefits are an inducement.

Most employers offer decent wages and health care benefits. WM elects to provide the minimum.

Which is their right. WM's DUTY is to make as much money as possible. If benefits isn't part of their business model, then so be it.

Want a job with benefits? Here's a thought: Go to college when you are young or learn a real trade and then make yourself attractive to the marker and get a job that offers benefits.

I know it is a radical idea.

85 posted on 09/16/2006 9:44:18 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (The state board will meet in closed session to discuss whether it violated an open meetings law)
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To: ex-Texan

"He takes the position that employers have no duty to provide any benefits to workers. That may have been true in the early 1900's. That is not true today. Most employers offer decent wages and health care benefits. WM elects to provide the minimum."

This alone shows that you hate the economic natural state of capitalism. Capitalism is not an economic policy, it is a natural state. That is the root cause of your socialist policies failing.

If other employers offer more, for the same value added labor, why does the employee CHOSE to stay employed at Wal-Mart?

"I take the simple position that WM is allowing the government to provide health care benefits."

Then why not support legislation eliminating the programs that allow for any citizen to get government provided health insurance?


275 posted on 09/18/2006 5:51:45 AM PDT by CSM ("When you stop lying about us, we'll stop telling the truth about you." No Truce With Kings)
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