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Anti-Wal-Mart warriors fueling class warfare
Concord Monitor ^ | 9/16/06 | George Will

Posted on 09/16/2006 6:51:22 AM PDT by bitt

Liberal campaign hurts people who need bargains

Evergreen Park, Ill., a suburb contiguous with Chicago's western edge, is 88 percent white. A large majority of the customers of the Wal-Mart that sits here, less than a block outside Chicago, are from the city, and more than 90 percent of the store's customers are African-American. One of whom, a woman pushing a shopping cart with a stoical 3-year-old along for the ride, has a chip on her shoulder about the size of this 141,000 square-foot Wal-Mart. She applied for a job when the store opened in January and was turned down because, she said, the person doing the hiring "had an attitude."

So why is the woman shopping here anyway? She looks at the questioner as though he is dimwitted and directs his attention to the low prices of the DVDs on the rack next to her.

Sensibly, she compartmentalizes her moods and her money. Besides, she should not brood. She had lots of company in not being hired: More than 25,000 people applied for the 325 openings.

Which vexes liberals like John Kerry. (He and his helpmeet last shopped at Wal-Mart when?) In 2004 he tested what has become one of the Democrats' 2006 themes: Wal-Mart is, he said, "disgraceful"and symbolic of "what's wrong with America."

By now, Democrats have succeeded, to their embarrassment (if they are susceptible to that), in making the basic numbers familiar: The median household income of Wal-Mart shoppers is under $40,000. Wal-Mart, the most prodigious job-creator in the history of the private sector in this galaxy, has almost as many employees (1.3 million) as the U.S. military has uniformed personnel.

A McKinsey company study concluded that Wal-Mart accounted for 13 percent of the nation's productivity gains in the second half of the 1990s, ...

(Excerpt) Read more at cmonitor.com ...


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To: ex-Texan

WinCo 25% cheaper than WM? They'll be bankrupt soon. That's impossible. There is a razor-thin profit margin on groceries.
Are you sure you don't mean that, for instance a house brand can of vegetables is 25% cheaper than a name brand at WM?
I enjoy reading your housing bubble threads, but now you've cast a lot of doubt on their veracity.
Respectfully yours,
Frank


41 posted on 09/16/2006 8:16:40 AM PDT by mozarky2 (Ya never stand so tall as when ya stoop to stomp a statist!)
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To: bitt

That lady who didn't get hired is an idiot...

I remember reading about the many applicants at the ev park store, and if they hired only 325 out of 25,000, I would guess many of them would be ticked standing in line without any chance of getting hired.

I used to work on 95th Street near Western on the Chicago Side. The mall there was a cesspool of gang bangers, crime, etc.....

That is what the south side, excluding Mt. Greenwood, brought you.

The attitude was probably from the applicant in this case. Of course she then goes to wal-mart to shop anyway.

And the walmart near me has no shortage of BMW's, Merecedes, and big fat SUV's on any day of the week, IMHO.

Oh well, I guess the communist unions have to continue their rants while the rest of the USA contuines supporting our economy.

BTW - No one is forced to ever work at WalMart. They volunteer to apply, get it, they made a choice.

And if it is so bad to work there, why do they stay.

Why don't they apply somewhere else like target, or Costco after they have some experience then?

Why can't walmart employees share that responsibility of making a choice of applying and working there, as well as choosing which benefits to accept ro use?

I'll tell you why, becuase it dilutes the rants and raves of communists and unions who would rather drag the workforce down with them, IMHO.


42 posted on 09/16/2006 8:17:21 AM PDT by Sonar5 (62 Million+ have Spoken Clearly - "We Want Our Country Back")
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To: SHOOT THE MOON bat

My mother is a Democrat in OK. She USED to be a very conservative Democrat. Okies used to be all conservative Dems. Now they are a red state. Most of the conservative Dems switched parties. Now she talks bad about Christians and religion. And she still goes to church every Sunday. The Dem party has her so screwed up that it is hard to talk to her. She believes every LIE they tell. She believes there is a Social Security Lock Box, etc.


43 posted on 09/16/2006 8:18:02 AM PDT by buffyt (America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people. Pres. George Bush)
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To: ex-Texan
[About 70% of WM employees (and their children) are dependent upon upon government for Medicare or Medicaid.]



And if the WalMart bashers get their way, 100% of them will be dependent on the government for everything ... because they'll be out of work.
44 posted on 09/16/2006 8:19:14 AM PDT by spinestein (Follow The Brazen Rule!)
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To: shankbear
Wal Mart isn't perfect but what is the DUthug's alternative. They never give any.

They don't have to so long as we still have pics of the old USSR's grocery stores.


45 posted on 09/16/2006 8:22:11 AM PDT by kenth (There are three kinds of people in the world. Those who can count, and those who can't.)
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To: buffyt
My sister the angry commie HATES WalMart. Never passes up a chance to put them down. But where did she take me shopping when I was visiting her in April? WALMART.

He He!

46 posted on 09/16/2006 8:23:52 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with political enemies who are going senile.)
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To: buffyt

Yep, first hand knowledge of that. My mother (in OK) is appalled at the idea of abortion. She is very conservative and Christian, but she grew up believing the democrats are the party of the little people.

In fact, they are the party of keeping the people little. The dems never pose any solutions to helping people out of poverty, just throwing them a few crumbs whilst keeping them in poverty.


47 posted on 09/16/2006 8:26:48 AM PDT by kenth (There are three kinds of people in the world. Those who can count, and those who can't.)
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To: bitt
"And were they also dependent upon the government for ALL their needs before they became employees of Wal-Mart?"

Yes, more or less. Most Wal-mart/Sam's Club employees are part-timers, not eligible for benefits. Like me, they took the job knowing what the score was. If they really wanted benefits, they could have kept looking for a job that provided them.
48 posted on 09/16/2006 8:29:26 AM PDT by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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To: bitt
I just got back from a trip to Bentonville, Arkansas, home of Wal-Mart, where I met with a number of folks from that company. I was inspired not so much by the people I met as by the story of Wal-Mart itself, so I bought Sam Walton's autobiography, Made in America, published way back in 1992 as he lay dying of cancer.

If that tale is to be believed, and it DOES come across as pretty credible, then Sam Walton built Wal-Mart on some very basic, even simplistic principles: buy your goods at the cheapest possible price, cut your margins, and sell your products cheaper than your competitors. "The less you charge, the more you make."

Wal-Mart is the perfect example of a better mousetrap.

What the Dems hate about it is that its philosophy is quintessentially capitalistic, and many of its donations go to conservative causes.

49 posted on 09/16/2006 8:29:45 AM PDT by IronJack (ALL)
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To: buffyt

Then she's a typical Democrat. They tend to be uninformed, to put it mildly. The media relies on Democrats to buy their totally left-biased "news" papers, and watch their completely biased TV "news", and pay to see movies which are nothing but left-lunatic propaganda.

The Democrat/Jackass Party continually spreads deliberate lies to fuel class warfare, to undermine capitalism and freedom. The Democrats are anti-American neo-Stalinists.


50 posted on 09/16/2006 8:35:42 AM PDT by pleikumud
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To: Balding_Eagle; ex-Texan

I promised the study.

Seesh, it was too easy. The link at the top of the thread leads directly to George Wills summary of the study.

The libs are really stupid to go on this rampage against WM. More people shop there EACH WEEK than have ever voted in any election.


51 posted on 09/16/2006 8:39:14 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with political enemies who are going senile.)
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To: mozarky2
You are right to be cautious. But I'm telling the truth. Grocery prices are much cheaper at Win-Co. Months ago I went out pricing all the stores in the area. Wal-Mart was the last store I went to and I was greatly disappointed. First, by the appearance of the store. It looked dirty. The floors appeared unwashed. Second: Those hokey signs with happy faces turned me off totally. The high prices on those signs really freaked me out. I kept asking myself, "Why do people shop here? Prices are lower at Target." Third: People are opposing new WM stores in Oregon. This is grass roots movement. People became very upset in city council mettings. In Beaverton, WM finally gave up fighting

If you must, get on a plane. You will see the proof with your own eyes.

52 posted on 09/16/2006 8:45:28 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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To: ex-Texan

" the lowest prices for food are found at WinCo. Prices are about 25% cheaper than WM."
"The truth is that WM's food prices are higher in many cases than other local merchants"
"The only thing I have purchased from WM in the past three months was a large container of liquid detergent sold on sale as a special item"
"Wal-Mart's marketing is based on the public perception that it's prices are less than other retail stores"




You sure don't respect this thread much you're simply making stuff up and trying to pass it off as knowledge.

We don't even have to be fans of Walmart to know how silly your statements are.

The most cost conscious shoppers in America have identified Walmart as the lowest priced store, yet you are telling us your chain is 25% cheaper.

Winco is in my state now, I can't wait for Walmart to reduce their groceries another 25% so that they can survive against the store that you consider more acceptable to Democrat sensibilities.


53 posted on 09/16/2006 8:47:36 AM PDT by ansel12 (Life is exquisite... of great beauty, keenly felt.)
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To: Balding_Eagle; ansel12

See my post #52 and read the links. People in Oregon hate WM.


54 posted on 09/16/2006 8:50:59 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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To: bitt
In the early 90s I lost a decent job and immediately took a part time job (25 hrs/wk) as a "WalMart associate" until I located another "real" job. I worked there for about 5 months and the work was pleasant and easy (which is why it doesn't pay very much) and that steady income, small as it was, saved my butt in a town which had an unemployment rate of 11% at the time, and allowed me to pay my family's bills WITHOUT having to resort to taking money from the American taxpayer.

WalMart employs more than a million workers to stock shelves and operate cash registers and mop floors. Most of these positions are filled by people who are working there temporarily to pick up some steady cash either between "real" jobs or as students working part time, or they're not the major wage earners in a household but are just picking up "extra" cash. In any case, the type of work required doesn't deserve to be paid higher than it is and the type of socialist thinking that says companies should pay people more than their free market value as workers may be dripping with compassion and may make its believers feel good about themselves for their generosity with other people's money, but it ALWAYS comes at a cost to the people it's intended to help.

All those still supporting the outdated ideas of government managed wealth redistribution through mandated arbitrary wages and benefits need to gain an understanding of what REAL compassion means, and learn how free markets best help the poor as well as the rich.
55 posted on 09/16/2006 8:55:10 AM PDT by spinestein (Follow The Brazen Rule!)
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To: shankbear
Wal Mart isn't perfect but what is the DUthug's alternative.

Liberals would only consider Osama bin Laden to be a genuine terrorist if he ran a Wal-Mart.

56 posted on 09/16/2006 8:57:29 AM PDT by Prime Choice (True Conservatives don't vote for Liberals just because they have an 'R' by their name.)
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To: ashamedtobefromparkridge

"What gets me is the morons who actually think unions want to help Wal Mart workers. NO THEY WANT THEIR DUES!"

That is the truth. I work under one and all they want is that tiny slice of your paycheck.

And another thing: If unions were so pro worker, they never would have allowed my workplace to hack away at my health insurance so the store could pay for remodeling.


57 posted on 09/16/2006 8:57:47 AM PDT by Niuhuru
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To: ex-Texan

See my post #52 and read the links. People in Oregon hate WM.


Liberals hate WM and Oregon is very liberal so you may be right. Conservatives like the free market, liberals like socialism.


58 posted on 09/16/2006 9:02:48 AM PDT by John D
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To: Balding_Eagle; ansel12
Guess that is why this web site has links proving Wal-Mart's high costs and over charging?


59 posted on 09/16/2006 9:03:29 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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To: ex-Texan

I won't dispute your point that ?win-Co? has lower prices. I've never heard of them, so they very well might.

George Wills point was that for most Americans WM is a financial savior of sorts, and that Liberals are absolute fools to take the positions they have.

Why would a politician chose to needlessly insult the very voters they are courting? See my tagline

I seldom shop WM myself, but when I have I've never encountered the environment you've outlined. I'd guess most shoppers haven't or WM would be out of business.

The fact that enough people in Oregon oppose WM is no surprise. Oregon is known for its liberal viewpoints, and "F---k You" attitude towards the poor. It their state. WM should not build there. Just like Chicago.


60 posted on 09/16/2006 9:05:48 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with political enemies who are going senile.)
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