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Pope’s attack on Islam sparks anger- Pope’s References to Islam Provoke Muslim Outcry
Jordan Times/Arab News ^ | 9-15-06

Posted on 09/15/2006 3:29:49 PM PDT by SJackson

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1 posted on 09/15/2006 3:29:50 PM PDT by SJackson
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Nothing particularly new here, but the Jordanian’s and Saudi’s should get their say. If I have a chance I’ll add some other Muslim commentary to the thread, they’re not worth threads of their own.

In response to the Pope’s suggestion that there’s violence in Islam, I particularly liked the defense

that the pope's remarks "threaten world peace" and "pour oil on the fire and ignite the wrath of the whole Islamic world
Mohammed Mahdi Akef Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood

You convinced me it’s a religion of peach Mahdi.

And

After the bloodstained conversions in South America, the Crusades in the Muslim world, the coercion of the church by Hitler’s regime, and even the coining of the phrase ‘holy war’ by Pope Urban II, I do not think the church should point a finger at extremist activities in other religions
, Aiman Mazyek, president of Germany’s Central Council of Muslims

doing a bit of finger pointing himself.

The Pope's statement was an attempt to jeopardise a remarkable unity displayed by Christians and Muslims against recent Israeli aggression in Lebanon,
Shahid Shamsi, Jamaat-i-Islami Party

Jamaat, speaking for Christians worldwide.

2 posted on 09/15/2006 3:30:12 PM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: SJackson

Have the riots started yet?


3 posted on 09/15/2006 3:30:38 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: SJackson

I wonder when we'll hear about the Christian outcry against islamic comments about Christianity?


4 posted on 09/15/2006 3:32:30 PM PDT by rfreedom4u (Native Texan)
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To: SJackson
"We demand that the Pope make a public apology"

And the rest of us demand that YOU go take a shower and use lots of soap.

5 posted on 09/15/2006 3:33:06 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Mr. Mojo
Check Out These Pictures of The So Called Peaceful Religion (Bashing The Pope)
6 posted on 09/15/2006 3:33:42 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: SJackson

Islam, the Religion of Pieces since the 7th Century.


7 posted on 09/15/2006 3:33:44 PM PDT by wjcsux (Proudly displaying my contempt for X 42.)
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To: SJackson

Go Pope Go!


8 posted on 09/15/2006 3:36:26 PM PDT by ladyinred
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From Gaza, home of the perpetually offended.

Thousands protest in Gaza over Pope's remarks on Mohammed

By News Agencies

Some 2,000 Palestinians angrily protested Friday night against Pope Benedict XVI in Gaza City, accusing him of leading a new Crusade against the Muslim world.

Palestinian Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh Friday joined the growing chorus of criticism in the Muslim world against Pope Benedict XVI, saying he had offended Muslims everywhere.

Lebanon's most senior Shiite Muslim cleric on Friday denounced Pope Benedict XVI's recent remarks about Muslim holy war, and demanded the Pope personally apologize for insulting Islam.

"We do not accept the apology through Vatican channels ... and ask him [Benedict] to offer a personal apology - not through his officials - to Muslims for this false reading [of Islam]," Grand Ayatollah Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah told worshippers in his Friday prayers sermon.

Fadlallah's words were some of the strongest yet in response to the pontiff's remarks on Islam's prophet Mohammed and holy war, during a speech this week in Germany, which angered many in the Muslim world.

"We call on the Pope to carry out a scientific and fastidious reading of Islam. We do not want him to succumb to the propaganda of the enemy led by Judaism and imperialism against Islam," Fadlallah said.

On Friday, Pakistan's parliament unanimously adopted a resolution condemning Benedict for making what it called "derogatory" comments about Islam, and seeking an apology. Hours later, its Foreign Ministry summoned the Vatican's ambassador to express regret over the remarks.

About 100 worshippers demonstrated after Friday prayers at Egypt's Al-Azhar mosque, the Sunni Arab world's most prominent institution, chanting "Oh Crusaders, oh cowards! Down with the Pope!"

Egypt's Foreign Minister Ahmed Aboul Gheit said on Friday Pope Benedict XVI must explain himself after insulting the Muslim world with "unfortunate" remarks about Islam and jihad.

"He has to explain himself, and tell us what exactly did he mean," Gheit told The Associated Press. "It can't just be left like that."

Many attributed the Pope's comments to a larger political bias against Muslims. "This is part of the whole war against Islam. Whenever we close a door on evil, they open another door," said an Egyptian man who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter.

"These Christians are all infidels. Benedict himself is an infidel and a blind man. Doesn't he see that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and other places were waged by Christians?" another worshipper said.One of the protest's organizers, a Muslim Brotherhood figure, shouted into a microphone, demanding an official apology from the Vatican.

Hundreds of Egyptian riot police wearing black helmets and carrying heavy shields surrounded the mosque, preventing protesters from spilling over into the streets.

Fadlallah said he condemns "and protests in the strongest terms" the Pope's comments, "particularly his quoting without any occasion of the words of the emperor in which he insults Prophet Mohammed."

Lebanese Prime Minister Fuad Saniora instructed Lebanon's ambassador to the Vatican, Naji Abi Assi, to visit the Vatican Foreign Ministry to seek clarifications on the pontiff's remarks, a Lebanese government official said Friday.

In neighboring Syria, the grand mufti, the country's top Sunni Muslim religious authority, sent a letter to the pope saying he feared the pontiff's comments on Islam would worsen interfaith relations. Sheik Ahmad Badereddine Hassoun, a moderate cleric, said the comments "raise intellectual, cultural and religious problems between followers of religious faiths."

The letter, addressed to the Pope and delivered to the Vatican embassy in Damascus, avoided sharp criticism however, reflecting tight control by Syria's secular regime.

"We expect that what has been attributed to your holiness is not true and hope we can all work together on spreading divine values that call for harmony, accord and cooperation," Hassoun wrote.

Notably, the most violent denunciation so far has come from Turkey - a moderate democracy seeking EU membership, which Benedict plans to visit in November.

Salih Kapusuz, deputy leader of Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan's Islamic-rooted party, said Friday that Benedict's remarks were either "the result of pitiful ignorance" about Islam and its prophet, or worse, a deliberate distortion of the truths.

"He has a dark mentality that comes from the darkness of the Middle Ages. He is a poor thing that has not benefited from the spirit of reform in the Christian world," Kapusuz told Turkish state media. "It looks like an effort to revive the mentality of the Crusades."

"Benedict, the author of such unfortunate and insolent remarks, is going down in history for his words," he said. "He is going down in history in the same category as leaders such as Hitler and Mussolini."

Even Turkey's staunchly pro-secular opposition party demanded that the Pope apologize to Muslims before his visit. Another party led a demonstration outside Ankara's largest mosque, and a group of about 50 people left a black wreath outside the Vatican's diplomatic mission.

Vatican spokesman Federico Lombardi has tried to defuse anger, saying the Pope had not intended to offend Muslim sensibilities and insisting that Benedict respected Islam. In Pakistan, the Vatican envoy regretted "the hurt caused to Muslims."

But Muslim leaders said outreach efforts by papal emissaries were not enough. "We do not accept the apology through Vatican channels ... and ask him [Benedict] to offer a personal apology - not through his officials," Grand Ayatollah Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah - Lebanon's most senior Shiite Muslim cleric - told worshippers Friday in Beirut, Lebanon.

Rashwan feared the official condemnations could be the precursor for widespread popular protests. Already there have been scattered demonstrations in several Muslim countries.

"What we have right now are public reactions to the Pope's comments from political and religious figures, but I'm not optimistic concerning the reaction from the general public, especially since we have no correction from the Vatican," Rashwan said.

Other Islamic leaders have demanded an apology from the Pope, over remarks in which he quoted from a book recounting a conversation between 14th century Byzantine Christian Emperor Manuel Paleologos II and an educated Persian, on the truths of Christianity and Islam.

"The emperor comes to speak about the issue of jihad, holy war," the Pope said.

"He said, I quote, 'Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached,"' Benedict quoted the emperor as saying.

On Thursday, the Vatican said the Pope had not intended to offend Muslim sensibilities with the remarks. But the comments continued to reverberate Friday.

9 posted on 09/15/2006 3:37:28 PM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: ladyinred

I want the thank the inventor of the Gatling gun. I assume its John Gatling or something. I often wondered why such a weapon was designed, it, and like the fuel air bomb, but when I see the contorted faces of these screaming 6th century koranimals it suddenly makes a lot of sense.


10 posted on 09/15/2006 3:38:32 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Somebody important make....THE CALL!)
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To: Mr. Mojo

No flaming KFCs in my area...


11 posted on 09/15/2006 3:38:32 PM PDT by AirForceBrat23
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To: SJackson

Thanks Pope. Now there are TWO men in world leadership positions - the Pope and John Howard.


12 posted on 09/15/2006 3:38:33 PM PDT by gotribe (It's not a religion.)
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To: Mr. Mojo
As we all know, the order of historical reference:

1.) Jewish
2.) Christian
3.) Islam

Seeing as the Muslims are third on the list, a basic newcomer, they need to
STFU


Hindu and Buddhism omitted for brevity of post.
13 posted on 09/15/2006 3:38:43 PM PDT by ThreePuttinDude ()...Hey Libs........NO FITZMAS FOR YOU.....()
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To: SJackson

"You shall know him [them] by his fruits."


14 posted on 09/15/2006 3:40:05 PM PDT by AirForceBrat23
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To: SJackson

The Pope should apologize, right after the muslims denounce the Iranian president and Chavez for their anti semitic remarks.


15 posted on 09/15/2006 3:40:21 PM PDT by Netizen
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To: areafiftyone; AirForceBrat23
Proto-riots, those appear to be.

The full-fledged variety should be happening anytime now...

....especially if the Pontiff doesn't apologize (and I sure hope he doesn't).

16 posted on 09/15/2006 3:40:24 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: samadams2000
John Gatling

Would he be from Gatlingburg??

17 posted on 09/15/2006 3:40:29 PM PDT by ThreePuttinDude ()...Hey Libs........NO FITZMAS FOR YOU.....()
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To: SJackson
Islamists are angered at the existence of the Pope and all other Christians.
18 posted on 09/15/2006 3:41:21 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: SJackson
"you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached"

I guess it hadn't evolved into a religion of peace yet.


19 posted on 09/15/2006 3:42:50 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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Blah, blah, blah...

The vile Muslims can deride any religion with impunity. If someone finds the balls to call this vile puke of "religion" for what it is ----

A dusgusting fake religion that bring out onloy the worst in people!


20 posted on 09/15/2006 3:43:11 PM PDT by observer5 (It's not a War on Terror - it's a WAR ON STUPIDITY)
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