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Evolution Is Practically Useless, Admits Darwinist
Creation Evolution Headlines ^ | 08/30/06 | Creation Evolution Headlines

Posted on 09/13/2006 3:52:47 PM PDT by DannyTN

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To: Liberal Classic
Concerning your faux issue of "Observe the rejection of modern oil exploration techniques", no one rejected any techniques at all. That's mostly because you never described any or gave any references to anything in particular.

I, at least, proposed that with sufficient lawyers you could probably jump a claim, and that would certainly suffice in anybody's book as a modern oil exploration technique.

So far you have not addressed my assertion.

741 posted on 09/14/2006 6:48:41 PM PDT by muawiyah
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Please m, tell us again what the unique evidence is that proves that the earth orbits the sun...

This thread is getting better all the time.

Evolution has no pratical applications. Oil comes from nowhere. The earth is the center of the universe.

742 posted on 09/14/2006 6:48:53 PM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: YHAOS

It's very hard to be very lofty when one starts with

chance plus time and never gets beyond that.

The only plausible result is that man is nothing more important than a rat, a pigeon, a radish or a rock--as B.F.Skinner was wont to pontificate about.


743 posted on 09/14/2006 6:50:02 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Ichneumon
You remind me so much of myself when I was evolutionist.

The long overstated responses to ANY disagreement of any kind..the obvious dissatisfaction and restlessness and inability to tolerate the existence of Christian belief in Creation ANYWHERE...as if it has to be stomped out.

I know all to well where you are coming from.

And I pray for you, that you will find the truth and the incredible peace that comes with it.

You can curse and insult me all you want. I really do wish the best for you.

744 posted on 09/14/2006 6:50:05 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: GourmetDan

Please elaborate. Inquiring and eager minds want to know. BTW, I'm planning to send your response to people who might be very, very interested in your hypothesis. You may be on to something they haven't thought of. Though I'm of a skeptical mind, you may be on to something here, so by this post I legally claim a 40% share (I'm not greedy) of all revenues you realize from promoting Postmodern EarthCentrism. I've already copyrighted this term. But, please don't tell your neighbors before you (I mean we) get on Oprah.


745 posted on 09/14/2006 6:52:17 PM PDT by ml1954 (ID = Case closed....no further inquiry allowed...now move along.)
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To: ml1954

Send them what I already posted.

I thought you would have some unique evidence but, sadly, no.

Perhaps your friends will have some unique evidence that you don't know about.

Let me know.


746 posted on 09/14/2006 6:54:04 PM PDT by GourmetDan
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To: GourmetDan

I guess this means we don't have a deal yet. Please reconsider. Think of all the money we could make.


747 posted on 09/14/2006 7:00:18 PM PDT by ml1954 (ID = Case closed....no further inquiry allowed...now move along.)
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To: muawiyah
I, at least, proposed that with sufficient lawyers you could probably jump a claim, and that would certainly suffice in anybody's book as a modern oil exploration technique.

That would seem to square with your (mis)conceptions of oil exploration:

Then there are the petroleum engineers who argue that the existence of any biological fosils in petroleum deposits is coincidental ~ that the petroleum was there since the beginning of the Earth.

The challenge was about how oil companies really go about finding oil ~ and, the answer is, they rely on somebody else's discoveries.

So far you have not addressed my assertion.

Your assertions have already been addressed, and exposed as being midly nutty.

748 posted on 09/14/2006 7:00:28 PM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: GourmetDan
And how would the fact that the distance varies uniquely support heliocentrism over geocentrism? Surely you know.

Indeed I do. If you don't, on the other hand, you've just revealed that you haven't a clue about even the most elementary principles of physics. Why not just admit that your question is a bluff in an attempt to get me to help you make heads or tails of a topic you can't even begin to understand, but are attempting to "debate" anyway?

749 posted on 09/14/2006 7:00:45 PM PDT by Ichneumon (Ignorance is curable, but the afflicted has to want to be cured.)
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To: Jorge

Wow, to turn your brain off like that, must be absolutely liberating.

To be objective and a free thinker, and want to think and gain knowledge, and then convert and be born again, and just be able to shut it all down.

What an incredible experience that must have been.

I just can't bring myself to do it.


750 posted on 09/14/2006 7:02:22 PM PDT by Jaguarbhzrd
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To: Liberal Classic

Sorry, you didn't provide a reference to back up your "opinion". Remember, it's always good to do that when you describe one of the alternative theories as so much BS.


751 posted on 09/14/2006 7:02:24 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Jorge
You remind me so much of myself when I was evolutionist. The long overstated responses to ANY disagreement of any kind..the obvious dissatisfaction and restlessness and inability to tolerate the existence of Christian belief in Creation ANYWHERE...as if it has to be stomped out. I know all to well where you are coming from. And I pray for you, that you will find the truth and the incredible peace that comes with it. You can curse and insult me all you want. I really do wish the best for you.

Yes indeed... Mr. "I don't have time to provide support for my allegations" Jorge turns out to have all the time in the world to play over and over again the "I feel sad for you, really I do" game in a pathetic attempt to try to distract attention from his inability to stand by his nonsense.

Ironically, that only highlights just how disingenuous his initial excuses were, *and* how hollow his claims of "gosh, I'm not concerned what you think" are. He seems concerned enough to keep ramping up and repeating his posturing each time I make clear I'm not buying it.

752 posted on 09/14/2006 7:04:56 PM PDT by Ichneumon (Ignorance is curable, but the afflicted has to want to be cured.)
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To: muawiyah

Hubris is not an argument.


753 posted on 09/14/2006 7:09:28 PM PDT by ml1954 (ID = Case closed....no further inquiry allowed...now move along.)
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To: Jaguarbhzrd
Wow, to turn your brain off like that, must be absolutely liberating.

Actually I went on to graduate first in my college class with a perfect 4.0 GPA.

As a Christian I didn't believe a word my pro-evolution college professors were saying, but I aced their classes just the same.

754 posted on 09/14/2006 7:11:31 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: muawiyah
"Right, heat alone ~ and it helps to sift the stuff around so you can break up the little pockets ~ kind of like getting juice from oranges on an industrial scale.

FWIW, most of the Alberta and so far all of the Sask oil sands oil has been extracted through steam. The lower the Bitumen level the more steam is used as an extraction method.

The OP made an unsubstantiated claim based on a low knowledge level and presented it in such a way as to imply her information was as valid as any other.

"...so maybe you might want to readdress the ABRUPT answer you gave"

What was ABRUPT about my post?

The OP has been more than a little shrill in her rejection of anything evolutionary and has shown little to no desire to temper her posts based on her obvious knowledge level. If she wants to learn I would be happy to contribute what I little I can but she needs to recognize her ignorance for what it is and not pretend to a certainty of knowledge she doesn't have.

I have no problem with people with a lower level of knowledge in a given area than I have just as I have no problem with people with a higher level of knowledge.

755 posted on 09/14/2006 7:12:11 PM PDT by b_sharp (Objectivity? Objectivity? We don't need no stinkin' objectivity.)
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To: muawiyah

The evidence indicates oil comes from fossil marine life in sedimentary deposits. There's no compelling evidence oil comes from deep within the earth. When they start pumping oil from volcanoes, call me. Until then, your "alternative theory" is nonsense.


756 posted on 09/14/2006 7:15:37 PM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: Jorge

As a Christian I didn't believe a word my pro-evolution college professors were saying, but I aced their classes just the same.


So, not only were you able to turn your brain off, you were also able to turn off your new found principles as well.

God must be pleased with you.


757 posted on 09/14/2006 7:16:07 PM PDT by Jaguarbhzrd
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To: GourmetDan
One problem that I've never seen answered is how scientists explain away the 5' to 3' problem of joining 2 chromosomes head-to-head?

What are you talking about, joining head-to-head? You are aware that chromosomes have two strands of DNA, right? Like this:

5'--------------3'
3'--------------5'
I think that what you are suggesting is that this happened:

5'--------------3'3'----------------5'
3'--------------5'5'----------------3'
Instead of the proper:

5'--------------3'5'----------------3'
3'--------------5'3'----------------5'
If that is what you are suggesting happened, I am curious as to why you think that. It wont happen that way. Why do you think that the first chromosome wouldn't just twist a very little so it would match up and fuse? That is exactly how they form chiasmata.

758 posted on 09/14/2006 7:16:22 PM PDT by wyattearp (Study! Study! Study! Or BONK, BONK, on the head!)
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To: Ichneumon
Thanks for reposting my comments.

We will continue to pray for you.

759 posted on 09/14/2006 7:17:34 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: b_sharp
You did check that ref I gave you though ~ the language is strikingly similar to hers. Apparantly the stuff in Africa has a different fosil layer above it.

I think your correspondent there is younger than you imagine.

760 posted on 09/14/2006 7:17:44 PM PDT by muawiyah
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