Posted on 09/13/2006 3:52:47 PM PDT by DannyTN
Translation: "I'm *still* scared to death to actually discuss the topic I just spouted off about, so I'm going to keep making pathetic posts that I hope I can make so emptily condescending that someone might mistake them for actual confidence or competence."
Look, Jorge, if you're that scared to support your claims, just silently vanish, at least that why some people might assume you did so because you got involved in other things. But your current tactic just makes blatantly obvious the fact that you have all the time in the world to bluster and get snotty, but no inclination or ability to back up your mouth with substance.
Run along, kid, I've seen your kind way too often to be even annoyed or surprised by it, much less "furious". Hell, I even sardonically *predicted* what you'd do and you couldn't help doing it anyway. "Furious"? I'm laughing my ass off.
Actually, I think it's *your* ignorance that is showing.
I know about the 5' to 3' problem and the difference between head-to-head chromosome fusions and observed chromosome fusions and you don't.
I also see evos do that all the time and it doesn't impress me either.
Ichy, the problem is you have a bad attitude and are unwilling to "teach" or "discuss". Your approach to these threads reminds me of the old mullah who sits there in the masdrah and smacks kids with the whip on the long stick.
No doubt you have something to contribute, but I think I'd much prefer a modern, Western classroom setting.
IOW, you have nothing left but personal attacks. LOL.
This is exactly the kind of insults I used to spout at Christians when I was an evolutionist.
You don't have a clue how ugly and arrogant your posts make you look. I feel sorry for you.
...and yet oddly enough, it's the creationists who keep getting caught spewing endless falsehoods on this subject, while it's the "evolutionists" who keep going through a great deal of time and trouble to double-check their conclusions against reality (you know, that "science" stuff you may have heard about on the Cartoon Network).
Yet again, perhaps you don't know what in the heck you're talking about. Or maybe you're just making it as you go along because you think any false slander is justified when fighting that "evilution", eh?
Pathetic.
Let's represent that visually, shall we?
That's better. But my guess is that your interlocutor is a male; dedicated female trolls are as rare as hen's teeth.
The giveaway was that he/she claims to be Catholic, but then pretends to cling fanatically to concepts that fly directly into the face of Catholic doctrine. One cannot be dogmatic and heterodox at the same time.
Please, please, please, Dan, tell us all again about how the earth is the center of the universe. It's so fascinating.
There is only one.
Right. I'm being attacked too for declining to debate an issue I know nothing about.
I guess among creationists, a lack of scientific knowledge is not a sufficient reason to sit back and listen, and perhaps learn.
Please m, tell us again what the unique evidence is that proves that the earth orbits the sun which orbits the Milky Way which orbits the ?
Wouldn't be Michelson-Morley, that gave a null result.
Wouldn't be Airey's Failure, that gave a null result also.
Wouldn't be Foucalt Pendulum, that would require different effects for the opposing models.
Wouldn't be stellar parallax, that is the evidence that the stars are centered on the sun for the required gravitational offset.
Hmmm, what could it be...?
To which Jorge replied:
I don't agree with your 90% number, but yes it is absolutely turning away from God.
If people don't believe God's Word then they can just make up any "truth" they want to replace it.
Most of the people that I have personally known from working in biology and geosciences fields are not atheists. Contrary to popular notions on these threads, many of them are church (or synagogue) going people, and most of them have some measure of religious faith. None of them believes that evolutionary theory, or other scientific theories such as plate tectonic theory, is necessarily in conflict with their religion.
What we are seeing in these threads, then, is not a conflict between science and religion. For most people, including most religious people, science and faith are not opposed to one another. What we are experiencing is a sectarian conflict. This conflict exists between those with a certain highly literal interpretation of the Genesis chapter and people who hold more mainstream viewpoints. The theological position of mainstream Judaism and Christianity (including conservative denominations such as the Southern Baptists) is that the Lord exists beyond scientific scrutiny. However, when the scientific evidence does not square with some people's theological positions, it is the evidence and scientific method that become suspect.
The result is the hostility demonstrated on these threads towards modern biology and science in general. Notice the desire among some people to demonstrate that evolution is useless -- that it has no practical application. Observe the rejection of modern oil exploration techniques. Notice also the advancement of the idea that our understanding of fossil fuels is totally wrong, that our understanding of geology and geologic time is suspect.
How many times in these threads have I heard people say "you can't be a Christian if you believe in evolution" and the like? This is a sectarian conflict. It isn't science versus Christianity at all. In actuality, this conflict is about some people seeking to elevate their theological position above the theological positions of others.
Free crits are a way of life.
This is exactly the kind of insults I used to spout at Christians when I was an evolutionist.
...and that's exactly the kind of retort I'd use if I was frightened to death of supporting the false slanders I made, if I were the type to actually make empty attacks I knew I couldn't justify when asked to do so.
I'd also falsely claim to have once been an "evolutionist", so as to try to fake a condescension to cover my cowardice.
But then, *I'm* not like that.
You don't have a clue how ugly and arrogant your posts make you look.
Yes, how *DARE* I point out that you're unable and unwilling to ever support your slanders! How *rude* of me!! How arrogant to ask you to support or retract your insults! How ugly it is to point out that you consistently behave like the kind of vitriolic, evasive, intellectually dishonest Christian that gives a bad name to all the good ones! Gosh, what a meanie I am!
Pssst, Jorge -- why do you ignorantly and belligerently assume I am not a Christian myself? This should be *really* funny...
I feel sorry for you.
That's just a case of projection.
LOL!
You aren't being *attacked*.
Merely corrected for calling someone else ignorant when you are clearly the one who is ignorant.
You think that's being attacked?
How do you feel about flat earth and phlogiston chemistry?
The fact that the distance between the Earth and the Sun varies over the course of the year in exact accordance with the scenario of the Earth orbiting the Sun instead of vice versa.
Oh, PLEASE tell me that not only are you stupid enough to be an anti-evolutionist, you're also stupid enough to be a geocentrist...?
Feel?
I can't say that I have any feelings for them at all.
You?
There are current articles in popular science journals and peer reviewed journals concerning the "shape" of the universe that suggest it has no edge, and no center.
Are you going to tell us you know where the center is?
And how would the fact that the distance varies uniquely support heliocentrism over geocentrism?
Surely you know.
I am truly puzzled by the fairly recent resurgence of this phenomenon.
Somebody, please help me understand what is the impetus.
I am at a loss, and nearly speechless in wonderment.
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