The world around us is filled with a plethora of cases where order and complexity are known to arise from intelligence, either directly or indirectly. There are cases where the best that could be said is that no one knows for sure. But it is not reasonable to decide with no basis for that decision, that there is no intelligence behind order and complexity. There's simply no precedent for it.
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The world around us is filled with a plethora of cases where order and complexity are known to arise from intelligence, either directly or indirectly.
And it's also filled with a plethora of cases where order and complexity are known to arise from natural processes. So your decision to just flat-out declare that therefore anything/everything you might care to ponder about must therefore have been made via the application of intelligence instead of natural processes is, to say the least, wildly presumptuous.
Shall I repeat the question so that you can actually answer it this time?
There are cases where the best that could be said is that no one knows for sure.
No, there are cases where we know for a fact that natural processes can and have produced order and complexity. See various prior posts on this thread if you're still unclear on the concept and/or want to keep pretending that no one has offered you specific examples.
But it is not reasonable to decide with no basis for that decision, that there is no intelligence behind order and complexity. There's simply no precedent for it.
See above. Are you being dense, or just intellectually dishonest now?
Now that you're done dancing back and forth and making entirely circular arguments, would you like to answer the question now, or simply retract your unsupportable claim?