Posted on 09/08/2006 9:58:02 AM PDT by Howlin
Lopez: In sum, how many times did Bill Clinton lose bin Laden?
Miniter: Here's a rundown. The Clinton administration:
1. Did not follow-up on the attempted bombing of Aden marines in Yemen.
2. Shut the CIA out of the 1993 WTC bombing investigation, hamstringing their effort to capture bin Laden.
3. Had Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, a key bin Laden lieutenant, slip through their fingers in Qatar.
4. Did not militarily react to the al Qaeda bombing in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.
5. Did not accept the Sudanese offer to turn bin Laden.
6. Did not follow-up on another offer from Sudan through a private back channel.
7. Objected to Northern Alliance efforts to assassinate bin Laden in Afghanistan.
8. Decided against using special forces to take down bin Laden in Afghanistan.
9. Did not take an opportunity to take into custody two al Qaeda operatives involved in the East African embassy bombings. In another little scoop, I am able to show that Sudan arrested these two terrorists and offered them to the FBI. The Clinton administration declined to pick them up and they were later allowed to return to Pakistan.
10. Ordered an ineffectual, token missile strike against a Sudanese pharmaceutical factory.
11. Clumsily tipped off Pakistani officials sympathetic to bin Laden before a planned missile strike against bin Laden on August 20, 1998. Bin Laden left the camp with only minutes to spare.
12-14. Three times, Clinton hesitated or deferred in ordering missile strikes against bin Laden in 1999 and 2000.
15. When they finally launched and armed the Predator spy drone plane, which captured amazing live video images of bin Laden, the Clinton administration no longer had military assets in place to strike the archterrorist.
16. Did not order a retaliatory strike on bin Laden for the murderous attack on the USS Cole.
From the article Q and A with Richard Miniter located in the article Clinton’s Loss? at National Review Online
Damn, I wish that bastard Clinton could get impeached all over again and this time for these real and devastating high crimes and misdemeanors.
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I MUCH AGREE.
Howlin, Mia; Angel-Gal;
Anyone know of any follow-up to the allegation early in President Bush's Administration--
that he and his people were told in very abundantly clear terms that
IF HE PROSECUTED ANY of the DIMRATS, that the DIMRATS IN CONGRESS would lock up congress and prevent anything from being accomplished.
I think that needs pursued. There must be witnesses.
No verification; just the same things you've heard.
You know why we hate this? Because it makes us feel the way we felt for eight long years..........and we're not happy about it.
You know why we hate this? Because it makes us feel the way we felt for eight long years..........and we're not happy about it.
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Yes, I think that's a huge part of it.
But perhaps more and along that line . . .
We are super viscerally outraged that they seem to be getting away with it again--and may be on the verge of getting away with it MORE vis a vis their success with ABC and the looming election in Nov and the rank complicity of the MSM etc. etc. etc.
Certainly blood boiling stuff, in any case. At least, to me--more than I'd prefer by far.
I think we really cherish our Republic and our way of life and our families and we are viscerally outraged that the evil forces and the evil clueless arrogant idiots succeed so well at trashing what we love.
In any case. I personally greatly appreciate your efforts in behalf of our republic and in behalf of FR.
God's best to you and yours.
AFAIK, it's always just been gossip.
So you're saying this is it, the death match/blood feud we've been expecting.........the one that determines the future of this country in our lifetimes?
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The more they howl, the more people are going to want to see it. And even if certain events are fictionalized the over all theme of this thing is going to be very unkind to the Klintonistas.
And that is a very good thing.
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RE: 3. Had Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, a key bin Laden lieutenant, slip through their fingers in Qatar.
Didn't they also let him slip through their fingers in the Phillipines while pursuing Ramzi Usef (both were residing in the same safe house)?
So you're saying this is it, the death match/blood feud we've been expecting.........the one that determines the future of this country in our lifetimes?
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Great question, Howlin. And I'm deeply humbled that you'd ask me such a heavy duty question. Deeply humbled. Thanks. I hope I don't misunderstand, misconstrue your question. Please ignore where I wander off from it, if I do.
I'm not sure how to respond--just off the top of my head, gut and spirit, I guess . . . Mileage may vary . . . I'm a pretty flawed prognosticator spiritually and otherwise . . .
"the death match/blood feud we've been expecting.
I don't know about "The" in the sense of the ABC broohaha. I think that's just another battle in the building one.
But it seems clear to me that the forces of darkness have been intensified and loosed in greater number on the whole planet than ever before in my lifetime and probably than I've ever read about in recorded history.
Just coming home from the pizza place, I heard about the 14 year old attempting to rape a woman in the park my step-dad's parents gave the city long ago. She fought the kid off. But 14 years old! And pregnancies as young as what--9, 10, 11? These were unheard of in my teen years and ever since until recently.
I know that there were corruptions throughout our history. LBJ was certainly far from decent. Certainly the Kennedys have been corrupt from the beginning. There are other outrageous examples.
And, certainly the press has been controlled for many decades beyond ours to varying degrees.
But the degree of so many Republic-destroying forces intensifying and coming together at this time is unprecedented in my memory and in the memory of all my reading.
I do NOT think we will be destroyed as a Republic even in BIBLICAL END TIMES SCENARIOS. But we may be threatened within inches of our existence as I think Israel will be. I think it depends on a lot of factors.
I do think that we must be relieved of, delivered from the evil goons runnning so many things from George Sorors on down; lateral to him and probably above him. I don't know how long that will take. And, I don't think that 'mere' voters can manage it alone without God's help. And I don't know all the scenarios God has planned between now and our restoration as a viable healthy Republic.
I just believe WE ALL HAVE TO STAND UP AND BE COUNTED FOR GOD, RIGHTEOUSNESS OUR REPUBLIC AND THE AMERICAN WAY TO THE UTMOST OF OUR ABILITY and God's leading in our lives. To do otherwise is to be complicit with the forces of evil by passivity and wimping out, if nothing else.
George Soros and the other puppet masters in their death grip on the DIMRATS; on our MSM; on our Universities; on FAR TOO MUCH OF THE POLITICAL MACHINES AND PROCESS--those evil idiots are playing for keeps with far too many puppet strings in their control ALREADY.
WE CONSERVATIVES WITH ABOVE AVERAGE CLUES about what's going on and what's crucially important in life and our country MUST do ALL we can to protect our Republic; publicize the truth; network mutual support etc.
It seems to me that every so many days or weeks--not even months any more--things escalate to higher intensity; higher complexity and higher stakes.
The last example was the stuff with Israel and Lebanon. Iran keeps teaking things up and up and up.
Some folks are ranting about something supposedly looming toward WWIII on the 12 of Sep. I don't think that's accurate. But such pontifications seem to be floating around more frequently and in more and more shrill terms.
All these trend lines have SOME basis in SOME realities. And these trend lines CANNOT go on indefinitely. They either have to calm down and wither away or escalate to a logical conclusion.
I have yet to see any calm down. The intensity line may level out significantly but there's still a creep up.
I certainly have not seen such trend lines reverse, wither away.
Most of the time, the trend lines intensify in strength, hazard and complexity. Israel and the compelled involvement of the world's leading nations in that conflict is but one example.
The efforts of the DIMRATs, George Soros et all to get a TOTAL CONTROL DEATH GRIP again more overtly over ALL of congress and the White House is unrelenting and escalates every chance they get in every way they can escalate it.
I don't yet understand why so many of their forces are so obviously clueless, stupid, idiotic, dumb etc. . . but that's a welcome chink in their otherwise overly successful armor and efforts.
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Perhaps, Howlin--the best short answer is, yes. This is likely that blood feud, imho.
I certainly think the November election is the next key critical bench mark that's on the conscious horizon as far as I can tell.
If we lose Congress, then I think the speed up to the abyss will be accelerated. What that will specifically look like, I don't know. What it will mean in shortened timeline to super greater traumas, I don't know. But it would be a lot faster than if Republicans win more seats--at least as far as I can tell.
The globalists would lick their chops and race toward the world government with all the speed and dispatch they could muster--which would be considerable given all the super bucks funding such on their side. I have absolutely no doubt that Shrillery is itching to be QUEEN BW*TCH OF NORTH AM OR THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE AS SOON AS SHE CAN MANIPULATE IT INTO BEING. And certainly Dillbo Billdo is eager to head the UN. As far as I can tell, they're consciously eager to set things up for the evil world leader.
At a minimum, the BILL OF RIGHTS would be eroded further into oblivion as this ghestapo action with ABC has demonstrated.
What do you think on that score, Howlin? What do you see as the trend lines of the blood feud?
I suppose I could ramble and pontificate further but I think that's the meat of my thoughts and feelings on it.
PLEASE, Howlin, respond to the same issues from your perspective. I'd deeply value your insights.
My dad hadn't even heard about this movie until just a few days ago. I first heard about it last week when Rush was talking about it.
The beauty of this is that it's the Democrats who have "trained" the public to believe if you see it or hear it on TV it's got to be true.
One can only image how they can ramp it up much more than this before Sunday night.
As I said before, life is grand, isn't it?
I agree 100 percent and I'm probably a lot older than you all, but propably not as well read.
I see this coming election as I think the Democrats see it: their last chance to regain control of SOMETHING, not everything, but something; all they have now as an agenda is disruption. If George Bush said that the sun rises in the East, they'd rise up and call him a damn liar without offering a bit of proof to refute him.
I see this as THE pivotal election to hold on to what we have, and to perhaps make greater strides in the next two years, so we can hold what we have in 2008.
If not, I'm thinking the first thing that will go will be the Electoral College; Hillary said as much within days of the 2000 election. If we lose that, we are doomed to a future of nothing but liberal edits concerning the very air we breathe.
And I am convinced that if they do get the power back, even one side of Congress, they will do whatever it takes to not only hold on to it, but use that as a leverage to gain all the power they think they are entitled to.
In fact, I'm more concerned than I was when Bush ran against Gore; whatever could we have been thinking when Bush won and we all thought we were rid of these people forever?
Witness what we have seen in this last week; see their power; do you see any sign of being afraid to use it to back down a national TV network? I sure don't.
It's like they couldn't even bother to get on the same page on the same day.
I think so!
Idiots. But, of course, not a word of it is true, doncha know!
I see this as THE pivotal election to hold on to what we have, and to perhaps make greater strides in the next two years, so we can hold what we have in 2008.
If not, I'm thinking the first thing that will go will be the Electoral College; Hillary said as much within days of the 2000 election. If we lose that, we are doomed to a future of nothing but liberal edits concerning the very air we breathe.
And I am convinced that if they do get the power back, even one side of Congress, they will do whatever it takes to not only hold on to it, but use that as a leverage to gain all the power they think they are entitled to.
In fact, I'm more concerned than I was when Bush ran against Gore; whatever could we have been thinking when Bush won and we all thought we were rid of these people forever?
Witness what we have seen in this last week; see their power; do you see any sign of being afraid to use it to back down a national TV network? I sure don't.
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I TOTALLY AGREE. And very well put.
Shrillery would tax the very air we breathe just to buy her and Reno a private dilldo factory, if nothing else. Gads I despise their evil Machiavellian designs on our Republic and our world.
I'll be 60 shortly after the New year, BTW. Assuming I'll still be on this mortal plain then! LOL.
Do you have any more clever ways to energize FREEPERS. Sometimes I get weary or despairing or discouraged or something that even the great choir we have here . . . doesn't take INFLUENCING THE LIBERALS AND MODERATES IN THEIR NETWORKS SERIOUSLY ENOUGH.
Every vote matters. This November election is super critical. We canNOT afford to be remotely complacent, smug or even the least bit lazy, imho.
I realize that prayer is the most important thing but I think we must put legs to our prayers with all the active things we can DO as well.
I have another question Howlin . . . SOMETIMES, I get the impression--even from the Jihadi's pontifications but certainly those of George Soros, Shrillery et al . . .
for example her "We're going to take things away from you."
I get the impression that they have been given a script by the senior puppet masters or at least clued into one--and they are smugly, brazenly marching toward it--take no prisoners; chaos and mayhem and death on all sides is no consquence etc.
Have you ever had any impression of such a thing?
It just seems to me that some of the pontifications by the evil forces owuld NOT be QUITE the same unless they'd been given a peek at the script toward the global government.
Like the THREE STOOGES all pointing at another one around the circle--NOT ME--HIM!
Super idiots.
It all seems so concerted, doesn't it?
If you listened to all the Democrats and liberals this week, even about the ABC movie, they ALL said almost the exact same thing, hardly even changing the wording.
Have you EVER seen so many people coming out against a made for TV movie in your life? It's just astounding to me.
No, I think something is amiss here that we are missing or haven't been informed about......what I do not know.
But I hope, like you, I live long enough to find out!
When you go down the list of Clinton appointees...almost all of them are failures. It wasn't just a failure of Bubba himself...but the rest of this folks were simply not capable of working for the US government. There were political hacks...with no other value. The simple idea of Ron Brown...commerice secretary...to expect him to really know anything about major companies in the US...was a total joke. Janet Reno was barely able to carry out most of her functions and served more as a lapdog of the administration.
I hate to be the devils advocate but we should have done something in 1983 when the Marine barracks was bombed Reagan should have done something then. But he didnt, he bombed Libya 2000 miles west of where the bombing should have taken place.
So please this should be a wake up call to all of us that these elected officials do not care about any of us..
Oh, they've been following a TALKING POINTS SCRIPT for years. It just gets more and more obvious and brazen.
THEY REALLY think the whole populace is super stupid; IQ 30 etc. and that they deserved to be terminated to reduce the population to 500,000,000 worldwide. Such arrogance!
YES, I AGREE:
No, I think something is amiss here that we are missing or haven't been informed about......what I do not know.
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But I think what's missing is mostly the behind the scenes dialogues with the various puppet masters about who is to play what role in the script toward the global government. There could be some other key aspect but I don't think the broad outline is missing that much.
Though sometimes I wonder who's been compromised on all sides of the spectrum. Sometimes I even wonder about O'Reilly and Limbaugh. But mostly I think that's being too paranoid and dismiss such thoughts.
I do think that there are some very, very, very startling components to the whole script rushing toward the global government that have yet to be overtly revealed or even talked about much in quiet secret corners of the net. I'm not certain what those are. Perhaps those are what you are sensing about something missing from the picture.
What are your guesses about what's missing? What do your feelings about such remind you of?
When do you MOST have those feelings? What triggers them most?
Who do you most associate with those feelings? What topics? What power centers?
HOWLIN, I can't express how much I appreciate this dialogue with you. It's a real treat and treasure for me.
THANKS TONS.
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