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Scientists crack genetic secrets of human egg
Michigan State University ^ | 05 September 2006 | Staff (press release)

Posted on 09/06/2006 10:20:53 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

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To: RightWhale

Human cells do not have a cell wall. Do you mean the cell membrane?


21 posted on 09/06/2006 11:52:19 AM PDT by fschmieg
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To: Mikey_1962
Amen to that! Usually, it's UofM that has these kind of breakthroughs, so it is nice to see my alma mater get some recognition.
22 posted on 09/06/2006 11:54:12 AM PDT by rintense
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To: fschmieg

If you wish. The outer lining of the cell. Membrane, whatever. Also the outer linings of the cell-like things inside the cell.


23 posted on 09/06/2006 11:55:28 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: PatrickHenry
Everybody be nice.

Oh, you bwute! You bwute! Imagine my little fists pummeling your smarmy, wude chest.

24 posted on 09/06/2006 12:45:24 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: VadeRetro
Smarmy and rude placemarker.
25 posted on 09/06/2006 12:57:08 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Where are the anachronistic fossils? Where are the moderate creationists?)
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To: PatrickHenry; VadeRetro
You both prove my point.
26 posted on 09/06/2006 2:23:52 PM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: PatrickHenry

Moo U propaganda placemarker. I love it :-)


27 posted on 09/06/2006 2:25:16 PM PDT by furball4paws (Awful Offal)
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To: tallhappy; PatrickHenry; VadeRetro
Hell...he may be a smarmy and rude guy, but he's our smarmy and rude guy.

And once again, we prove your point (lucky your hat covers it). [Geez, am I funny or what?]

28 posted on 09/06/2006 2:28:56 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Every single day provides at least one new reason to hate the mainstream media...)
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To: Pharmboy
Swami placemark.


29 posted on 09/06/2006 2:35:02 PM PDT by dread78645 (Evolution. A doomed theory since 1859.)
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To: stripes1776

Why do the tentative words bother you? That's how science works.

Hypotheses are developed. They use words like "may" and "might."

Seriously, do you have a problem with science?


30 posted on 09/06/2006 2:48:08 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: stands2reason
Seriously, do you have a problem with science?

I have a problem with people, whether politicians, salesmen, or scientists, making exaggerated claims and predictions simply because they sound good.

Some scientist have made and are making unrealistic preditions about the speed with which therapies will be produced. Here is an article from last year, "Medical Value of Stem Cells 'Over-Hyped'", in which Robert Wilson, a professor of fertility studes at Imperial Colleg London, cautions "I think it is unlikely that embryonic stem cells are likely to be useful in health care for a long time."

In another article on the same subject, "Stem Cell Hopes Distorted by 'Arrogance and Spin'", it says that scientists are being over-optimistic and providing a "case study in scientific arrogance and the danger of 'spining' a good story."

Hypotheses in science are never proven. What a scientist can do is collect experimental data that supports the hypotheses. Einsteins theory of relativity has never been proven and can't be. Inductive reasoning from experimental is not a proof. All any one can say is that the data supports the hypothesis. Someone may come up with a better hypothesis later on. Indeed, Einstein spent the last 35 years of his life trying to find a unified field theory that would reconcile his theory with quantum mechanics. He failed.

But a predition of the speed with which therapies will be found is not a hypothesis. It is only a prediction, and not a very good one when it is done simply to get research money. What I am asking for is to cut the hype and be more realistic about what may be possible.

Their are huge obstacle to overcome. Scientists do not know the mechanisms to direct embryonic stem cells to specific types of cells. There is also some evidence to suggest that such adult cells could spontaneously revert back to stem cells, or start growing in distorted and unpredictable ways like a cancer.

And what about proper peer review? A Korean scientist faked cloning experiments and lots of people simply accepted the findings because they wanted them to be true. That is not good science by any stretch of the imagination.

Let's all just cool the hype.

31 posted on 09/06/2006 3:44:38 PM PDT by stripes1776
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To: stands2reason
Sorry, but the second link is my previous reply is broken due to a spelling error in the code. This should do it.
32 posted on 09/06/2006 3:49:34 PM PDT by stripes1776
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To: RightWhale

Ah! Life!


33 posted on 09/06/2006 5:20:46 PM PDT by phantomworker (A camel is a horse designed by committee. Sofa king crazy.)
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To: RightWhale
the cell wall does the afferent and efferent thinking.

...and since the egg is the woman's contribution -- it shows how early the woman is able to multitask. :-)

Cheers!

34 posted on 09/06/2006 7:04:05 PM PDT by grey_whiskers
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To: PatrickHenry
From the article:

“There are thousands of genes that are redundant. We found about one in a thousand genes that are unique to the eggs – and some of them, they don’t have a known function yet,” Cibelli said. “Now we can clone these genes and put them into cells and see if they may have a role in the creation of stem cells – without fertilization or destruction of human embryos.”

All very intriguing, and promising line of inquiry -- hope it proves frutiful!

35 posted on 09/07/2006 1:09:55 PM PDT by ToryHeartland
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Placemarker


36 posted on 09/07/2006 2:59:15 PM PDT by b_sharp (Objectivity? Objectivity? We don't need no stinkin' objectivity.)
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