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Haleigh Poutre Almost Victim of Euthanasia, Now Making Good Progress
Life News ^ | September 4, 2006 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 09/05/2006 4:45:45 AM PDT by 8mmMauser

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To: T'wit
Bob Schindler knew better and had Terri track a bright light. At least Cranford was honest enough to concede that she did track the lights.

He conceded that see saw the balloon also. Being PVS, Terri was not supposed to see either. Yet Pat Anderson just let it go. I think there should have been a motion for renewed testing on that point alone. See what I mean?

1,381 posted on 10/18/2006 3:46:04 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: 8mmMauser
Scroll down a bit if necessary. This fellow sounds as if he had just attended Dr. Caplan's Bioethics Bash at the University of Pennsylvania, along with Ron, Jay, George and Mikey. At least he would have fit right in!

>> A suicide note in the pocket of a man who jumped off the Omni Royal Orleans Hotel late Tuesday led police to the grisly scene of his girlfriend’s murder, where they found her charred head in a pot on the stove, her legs and feet baked in the oven and the rest of her dismembered body in trash bag in the refrigerator,

I ask you, how does that differ from the bioethics we look at every day?

Man dismembers girlfriend in Quarter; cooks body parts

1,382 posted on 10/18/2006 3:50:29 PM PDT by T'wit (It is not possible to "go too far" criticizing liberals. No matter what you say, they're worse.)
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To: bjs1779
>> I think there should have been a motion for renewed testing on that point alone.

Yes... but I'd give odds it wouldn't have done any good. Not with Greer there to deny the motion. Here, at least, Pat Anderson caught Ronnie off guard and made him fumble his explanation. His job -- always -- was to gloss over his test findings with fancy scientific talk to say that the patient flunked. He was a gab artist, like Clinton. He changed the standards of PVS every time but always got the test result he was paid to deliver.

1,383 posted on 10/18/2006 3:57:15 PM PDT by T'wit (It is not possible to "go too far" criticizing liberals. No matter what you say, they're worse.)
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To: T'wit
Yes... but I'd give odds it wouldn't have done any good. Not with Greer there to deny the motion.

But if you don't file it, you can't appeal it.

1,384 posted on 10/18/2006 4:05:06 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: bjs1779

Good point. I didn't think of that.


1,385 posted on 10/18/2006 4:08:35 PM PDT by T'wit (It is not possible to "go too far" criticizing liberals. No matter what you say, they're worse.)
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To: T'wit
Anderson was sharp. Almost like a fighter who knows how to get his opponent in trouble, then inexplicably does not deliver the knockout punch. Over and over she did that.
1,386 posted on 10/18/2006 4:17:15 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: T'wit
23 By the way, you can see when the father

24 does it on September 4th he had her follow the

25 lights, so it's obvious that she does have

737 1 some -- whether you want to call it tracking or

2 visual-orienting reflex it's obvious at some

3 point she follows for a few seconds a light or a

4 bright balloon.

To illustrate what Pat Anderson might of questioned from there for starters.

Q. So you do admit that Terri can see certain objects or lights?

A. No I didn't. She doesn't see the same as us. (Thats the way Cranford talks)

Q. But you just said it is obvious that she follows a light or a bright balloon. Correct?

A. Yes

Q. Was the teddy bear a bright object?

A. That's absurd. A teddy bear is just as bright as a balloon to me. (again, that is how Cranford talks)

Q. Are you aware that Dr. Hammesfhar identified Terri's range of vision at 18 inches?

A. I am ashamed to be a member of the medical community with people like him around. That was a total fraud.(again, that's the way Cranford testifies throughout.)

By Anderson

I move to strike that.

Court. Agreed. Confine yourself to methodology Dr. Cranford

Q.

1,387 posted on 10/18/2006 5:52:32 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: bjs1779
>> Anderson was sharp

She certainly is. She has encyclopedic knowledge of the case, she's articulate -- she could write THE book, if she wished. I hope she sees her way to do that. It must have been emotionally wrenching for her at the end, after she invested SO much of her time and her personal feelings in Terri's defense. I hope she's fine now and would consider a bit of sweet revenge :-) In any case, I wish her well.

1,388 posted on 10/18/2006 7:53:24 PM PDT by T'wit (It is not possible to "go too far" criticizing liberals. No matter what you say, they're worse.)
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To: bjs1779

As long as we're in a speculative mood... I wonder if Terri herself has been cross-examining Dr. Humane Death recently and 'splaining the error of his ways to him :-)


1,389 posted on 10/18/2006 7:59:56 PM PDT by T'wit (It is not possible to "go too far" criticizing liberals. No matter what you say, they're worse.)
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To: BykrBayb

Great catch, BB :-) :-)


1,390 posted on 10/18/2006 8:25:11 PM PDT by T'wit (It is not possible to "go too far" criticizing liberals. No matter what you say, they're worse.)
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To: All; floriduh voter

"Lots on Drudge today. Seven funeral homes charged with grave robbing for parts, John McCain says he thinks he'll commit suicide if the dems win in November and other bizarre news.
http://drudgereport.com/"

bump


1,391 posted on 10/18/2006 8:48:40 PM PDT by Sun (Hillary had a D-/F rating on immigration; now she wants to build a wall????)
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To: T'wit
Terri's brain scan/mri is at http://www.judgegeorgegreer.com/

You have to scroll down. Her brain was in tact.

1,392 posted on 10/18/2006 8:57:04 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org or Join Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser)
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To: T'wit

The vater ist kolt up zere in Brainert.


1,393 posted on 10/18/2006 8:58:02 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org or Join Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser)
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To: All; floriduh voter

Pro-life John Spencer to debate anti-life Hillary Clinton on Friday and Sunday.

Details on a thread I started:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1721986/posts?page=31#31


1,394 posted on 10/18/2006 9:25:09 PM PDT by Sun (Hillary had a D-/F rating on immigration; now she wants to build a wall????)
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To: Sun

Your link didn't work.


1,395 posted on 10/18/2006 9:26:28 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: phoenix0468

It just worked for me.


1,396 posted on 10/18/2006 9:31:34 PM PDT by Sun (Hillary had a D-/F rating on immigration; now she wants to build a wall????)
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To: Sun

Um, ok.


1,397 posted on 10/18/2006 9:33:07 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: phoenix0468

I just sent you a ping, in case it doesn't work for you again.


1,398 posted on 10/18/2006 9:35:20 PM PDT by Sun (Hillary had a D-/F rating on immigration; now she wants to build a wall????)
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To: floriduh voter
>> You have to scroll down. Her brain was intact.

A very odd circumstance. I followed the whole discussion when Dr. CBB was looking into it. If the records are to be believed, Terri's first two CT scans following her injury were -- almost unbelievably -- normal. The brain damage isn't going to show up immediately, of course, but here the CT was still clean something like 48 hours later. Dr. CBB could not believe it and wondered if Terri's brain injury took place after she got to the hospital? The severe atrophy didn't show up until a third CT at the end of March, about a month later.

But the damage surely was done before she got to the hospital and there was no known incident that harmed her after she got there. Certainly nothing in the ER to cause "anoxic-ischemic encephalopathy"! Probably a paperwork botch. Change one digit and it ceases to be a mystery.

We are back to Michael being the only suspect.

1,399 posted on 10/18/2006 10:11:02 PM PDT by T'wit (It is not possible to "go too far" criticizing liberals. No matter what you say, they're worse.)
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To: floriduh voter
>> The vater ist kolt up zere in Brainert.

Zo ist die Mutter.

Ze Furniz iz on der fritz.

1,400 posted on 10/18/2006 10:13:53 PM PDT by T'wit (It is not possible to "go too far" criticizing liberals. No matter what you say, they're worse.)
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