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To: Fletch357
Just a little jingoistic nationalism here on my part ;-)

but....

The whole thing about technology and history and German superiority is that it didn't really matter that they excelled in one area (Rockets) because we whooped them on all the other fronts. They shot themselves in the foot by the whole oppressive regime thing since most people with a brain and means (including scientists) fled the coutnry.

Germany never effectively used its V-2 Rockets. More people were killed assembling them than were killed by them landing. Their best scientists fled to the good ole US of A. Verner Von Braun became a Naturalized US citizen. He was arrested briefly by the Nazi's too. He's American now. Einstien revoked his German citizenship by request and became a US citizen. They are just the most famous of thousands.

Werner Von Braun

In the 15th Century China had the best Navy in the world. They could have "discovered" America before Columbus, but they refused to put it to good use.

Rise and Fall of 15th Century Chinese Seapower

USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA

98 posted on 09/03/2006 11:10:05 PM PDT by Rameumptom (Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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To: Rameumptom
Just a little jingoistic nationalism here on my part ;-)

I think the internal Islamic threat and the disaster of socialism with their aging population will overtake their space efforts.

I look to the Japanese and the Chinese to accomplish far more in space. Even the Russians might make a space comeback. Europe? I don't expect much.
101 posted on 09/04/2006 1:19:32 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: Rameumptom; Fletch357
Well, why not say the same thing about it really being Chinese Technology, since they invented gunpowder and did try to launch a guy to the moon by strapping him into a chair loaded with fireworks type rockets a thousand or two years ago?

Considering that my uncle Nicklaus Gabriel worked on Rockets and in NASA as an aeronautical engineer through every phase of development from 1946 until the mid 70s, he would very surprised to be considered eurpoean.

Just because they were working well in that direction does not mean that the technology needed to get to the moon was european, especially when you consider the 30+ years of intensive R&D, all right here in America.

While we used the German research to bump up our own programs, we would have still achieved the same results.

102 posted on 09/04/2006 7:08:52 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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