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To: Tulsa Ramjet
Being like God and without grace, is narcissism, greed, power, depravity, materialistic.

Why are you fighting this?

'Cause it's inaccurate. You'd have to show, from the Scriptures, thar Eve KNEW all these things.

It's plain, from the Word, that 'she was deceived.'

471 posted on 09/05/2006 5:39:11 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie

"'Cause it's inaccurate. You'd have to show, from the Scriptures, thar Eve KNEW all these things."

Its hard to debate a literalist. And I understand and respect your belief.

Eve was told by God not to do something.
Satan told her to do it, because she could be like God.
Eve, desiring to experience something she was told not to, is a product of narcissism, greed, depravity(experiencing an action for pure desire) and materialism. And then she was later ashamed because she pulled Adam into it and they both had guilt.
Then God said, Okay, if you guys want to engage in these activities, then you reap what you sow. Eve, you are going to become pregnant, and it is going to hurt. Adam, instead of lying around and eating fruit, you gotta work for a living and care for your kids.

Its not that hard. But we are getting off point.
The question is, do you believe human life on earth is only four thousand years? Do you believe the earth is only four thousand years? If so to both, then our exchange is concluded because I've heard the literalist point of view.
Sorry if can't open your mind to other possibilities.
One last question, did gamma rays exist before man discover them? Or did they only exist when man was able to measure them?
As for backing things up by Scripture, this is nice, but even the apostles acknowledged that certain actions and teachings by Jesus were not all written in the bible because "John 21:25 Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written."

So because these "many other things" were not included, it is your view that they are not as important? But these "many other things" happended because scripture says it through John, right? Do you discount this? How do you know that Jesus did not sit down with John and say, You know John, My Father created the earth millions of years ago, but he decided that Adam was the beginning of his chosen people." You don't know because you don't have a book of the "many other things." Be a little more open minded. I'm not trying to shake faith, but just trying to show that a form of evolution was utilized by God to create the earth. What is so scary about that?
good night.


487 posted on 09/05/2006 7:36:31 PM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?")
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