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War hero, 82, hits fellow peer in Lords [UK Lord makes anti-Israel comments, punches Jewish peer]
Evening Standard of London ^ | Aug 27, 2006

Posted on 08/31/2006 12:01:31 PM PDT by John Jorsett

A former head of the Armed Forces struck a Labour Party peer during a furious row over the Lebanon conflict.

Lord Bramall, 82, hit Lord Janner, a senior member of Britain's Jewish community, after making what witnesses claim were a series of 'anti-Israel' comments.

Peers watched in astonishment as their argument over the Middle East escalated.

Lord Janner, 78, a veteran campaigner for Holocaust victims, was said to feel 'wronged and seriously offended' after the attack at the House of Lords.

He immediately sought the advice of fellow peers about how and whether to make a formal complaint against Lord Bramall, who was Chief of the Defence Staff during the 1982 Falklands War and sits as a cross-bencher.

But, after consulting several colleagues, Lord Janner decided he was prepared to accept an apology. They approached Lord Bramall, who later phoned him to say sorry.

A senior source said: 'There was no anti-Semitic remark but the comments by Bramall were anti-Israel. It took place in one of the rooms close to the Lords chamber and it got out of hand. It ended with Bramall hitting Janner.

'Those who witnessed the row were extremely shocked by his behaviour.'

The former Labour MP for Leicester - better known as Greville Janner - was left feeling 'distressed and bewildered', according to one of the senior peers he consulted.

When Lord Bramall was asked if it was true that he had had an argument with Lord Janner over the Lebanon crisis, in which he made anti-Israeli remarks, he replied: 'We are very old friends, we have corresponded since then.' Asked what 'then' meant, Lord Bramall said: 'Since we had a slight argument.'

Questioned over whether the argument involved any physical contact, Lord Bramall replied: 'Not an assault,' before terminating the conversation.

Eton-educated Lord Bramall served in the occupation of Japan. He was later on Lord Mountbatten's staff and became a full General in 1976.

No action has been taken by the Lords authorities and Lord Janner has made no complaint.

Last night he said: 'Lord Bramall has apologised, and, as far as I'm concerned, the matter is now closed. I'm sorry, I'm saying nothing more.


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To: pikachu
Frankly, I blame Peer pressure.

LOL!

21 posted on 08/31/2006 1:10:19 PM PDT by agere_contra
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To: John Jorsett

The only proper reply to a physical affront in The House of Lords is pistols at 20 paces.


22 posted on 08/31/2006 1:36:27 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: TexasCajun

Hooligans, yes, but there is something oddly refreshing to me about politicians attempting to beat the crap out of each other. No spin (at the time), no re-election concerns (at the time) just a passionate debate that gets physical. I may regret even thinking this, but the image of some republican, any republican, pushing Ted Kennedy against a wall, screaming at him that his is a silver-spooned, drunk who killed a woman..... wow. I guess I just like the idea.


23 posted on 08/31/2006 1:39:11 PM PDT by mad puppy ( The Southern border is THE issue)
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To: mad puppy

Exactly.

Men, fighting like real men used to. Uh, well, aside from that biting thing. Maybe it's a British thing -- like men dressing up in women's clothing.


24 posted on 08/31/2006 2:00:43 PM PDT by allen08gop ("Woman is the most powerful magnet in the universe... and all men are cheap metal!")
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To: glorgau

When neither man can hold his hand steady enough to fire, it might not settle anything!


25 posted on 08/31/2006 3:00:33 PM PDT by thoughtomator (There is no "Islamofascism" - there is only Islam)
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To: glorgau
The only proper reply to a physical affront in The House of Lords is pistols at 20 paces.

Pistols? These aren't rogues, these are lords. Only rapiers will do.

26 posted on 08/31/2006 3:28:57 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: familyop

Thanks for posting the poll results. Frankly, I'm surprised that the results weren't more obviously skewed in the Arabs' favour.

Result of the BBC-brainwashing over the past 60 years.


27 posted on 09/02/2006 7:01:12 AM PDT by FreeReporting (A leftish Israeli)
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