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MIT's inconvenient scientist [He doubts global warming propaganda]
The Boston Globe ^
| August 30, 2006
| By Alex Beam, Globe Columnist
Posted on 08/30/2006 6:52:17 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: tx_eggman
I love these threads. They allow me to expound my theory on the root cause of Global Warming ... the demise of the pirate. Refute this if you can:
Your theory is close, but the Actual cause of Global warming is the end of slavery.
With thousands of slave ships no longer throwing 200 million of slaves overboard, the ecology of the ocean was altered.
/Major Owens (D-NY)
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posted on
08/30/2006 7:27:41 AM PDT
by
UNGN
(I've been here since '98 but had nothing to say until now)
To: tx_eggman
AAARRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrr!
There's something wrong with you numbers. I count forty Pirates in Pittsburgh ...
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posted on
08/30/2006 7:33:16 AM PDT
by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
To: tx_eggman
LOL!!
There are still at least 1000 pirates. Look at Indonesia or the east coast of Africa.
To: notdownwidems
I've read it and it is well written. I gave it to a global warming nut and said it was an adventure novel and I never got it back! Censorship!
To: <1/1,000,000th%
I've heard its a might bit cooler there though as well!
To: aculeus
There is no science on the other side, Gore inveighed<> Does that stick give Algore colonic distress?
To: RexBeach
If we can't predict with 100% accuracy what the weather will be like this Sunday, how in the Hell can we claim to predict what the earth's climate will be like in 50 to 75 years?It's a different kind of prediction. This recent article at RealClimate addressed the exact question you asked.
Short and simple arguments for why climate can be predicted
Some of the comments are from one of my favorite FReeper climate change skeptics -- because he has a good grasp of the issue. Note that there are a LOT of comments.
To: DesScorp
At Colorado State University, the scientist in charge of hurricane forcasts for North America says plainly that he thinks Global Warming is an outright scientific fraud, Piltdown Man for climatologists.Dr. Gray's arguments against global warming aren't very good (Lindzen's are more realistic).
Gray and Muddy Thinking on Global Warming
To: tx_eggman
Clearly only more pirates can save us.
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posted on
08/30/2006 7:56:05 AM PDT
by
BadAndy
("Loud mouth internet Rambo")
To: adorno
It's about time to point out how the media is lying and spinning and manipulating the public with this global warming hoax. The media frequently provides an exaggerated and inaccurate view of this issue emphasizing the worst-case "scary" scenarios, but it's not a hoax.
To: aculeus
I took a college-level climatology class between the time when we were entering the next ice age and global warming. One of the first things the professor said in the first class is that there is no such thing as a normal climate and it's all about averages. And as anyone who has looked at paleoclimatology can tell you, the Earth has ranged from ice nearly to the equator to no ice caps at all (the norm, actually) and the planet managed to survive and bounce back.
To: LachlanMinnesota
I think we should think hard about how to penalize media lies and fraud. Frankly, I care less about Janet Jackson's boob than I do about having to sort out misinformation and disinformation everyday. They hide behind a 1 st amendment shield and really hurt and damage people all of the time, as Rush keeps pointing out. How about some consumer protection, for a change?
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posted on
08/30/2006 7:57:24 AM PDT
by
ClaireSolt
(.All generalizations are false, including this one.)
To: E. Pluribus Unum
When you mention this guy, the global warming extremists all say he gets paid by the petroleum industry.Actually, Lindzen doesn't get this criticism (other skeptics do). Lindzen is a tenured and accomplished atmospheric scientist and doesn't appear to have much trouble getting research grant funding. He writes the occasional op-ed on spec, but not as often as other skeptics.
To: wvobiwan
I don't think can afford to ignore them any more than we could ignore the Nazis in the 1930s. They are seeking control of perceptions for whatever reason(s) through intimidation and smears. Regardless of the value of their arguments, their tactics should be exposed and resisted for what they are... intimidation of free speech and debate!
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posted on
08/30/2006 8:04:52 AM PDT
by
coldoc
To: TChris
Just as soon as a climatologist, or any other scientist, can create a computer model that can accurately, reliably, repeatedly predict the average temperature of just my state one month in advance, then they will begin to have some credibility.TChris, that's still essentially a weather prediction, not a climate prediction. Take a look at the link I posted in #27. Given a liberal margin-of-error, I could easily predict the average temperature for any state one month in advance; I just look at what the average temperature IS for that state and that month. (That, in essence, is climate. Climate = average weather.)
If you want to try something interesting, go to CLIMVIS and plot temperatures for any given month using airport weather data. Try plotting data for April in a mid-latitude state, like Pennsylvania or Kentucky, over a lot of years. Comparing the graphs will show that there is usually a fairly strong transition from cold to warm in April, but the timing of this transition is considerably different year-to-year. March would work too; remember the "in like a lamb, out like a lion" (or vice versa) adage? The average temperature for a transitional month is going to be based on a combination of the cold part of the month and the warm part of the month. So while there's going to be considerable variability -- due to weather -- the average temperature is still going to be about (tossing out a number not based on anything) 52 degrees.
If you want to know the average annual temperature of a given area, find a cave in the area. The constant temperature of the cave is the average temperature of the area. This is also why borehole temperature logs, properly analyzed, can provide information about recent past climate-based temperature trends.
To: notdownwidems
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posted on
08/30/2006 8:08:28 AM PDT
by
LiteKeeper
(Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
To: longtermmemmory
I wonder if we have fewer hurricanes than usual this year, will the same people say it is proof of Global Cooling? So far we seem to be lagging behind last year's rate of generating storms... into "K" at this time last year and just got to "E" this year.
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posted on
08/30/2006 8:10:17 AM PDT
by
coldoc
To: notdownwidems
To: DaveLoneRanger
To: RexBeach
I agree with the GW skeptics. The world has been warming since the last ice age but not because of anything man has done.
However, I do disagree with your prediction statement. It's impossible to know the which card will turn up next in Black Jack or what the next roll of the dice will be in Craps, but casinos make billion of dollars knowing what the long term results will be.
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posted on
08/30/2006 8:15:11 AM PDT
by
preacher
(A government which robs from Peter to pay Paul will always have the support of Paul.)
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