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Muslim Jihad Comes To Small Town, USA
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| July 25, 2005
| Laura Mansfield
Posted on 08/28/2006 10:07:18 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Trampled by Lambs
Ditto that. See my post above.
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posted on
08/28/2006 10:20:09 AM PDT
by
zook
(McCain/Giuliani/Rice--2 of the 3 in 08!)
To: Lorianne
"Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Qur'an should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth"
--Omar Ahmed, Chairman of the Board of CAIR (Council of American Islamic Relations), San Ramon Valley Herald, July 1998
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posted on
08/28/2006 10:20:43 AM PDT
by
Vision
(God did not give us a spirit of timidity, but a spirit of power, love and self-discipline 2Timothy1)
To: ncountylee
Saudi Arabia continues to open mosques across the country spreading the filth of Islam. And that is the message everyone in this country needs to get. From the top down.
I seen last night on ABC that in 2 weeks they have a new movie event based on the 9-11 commission report. Wonder how they will portray the terrorists?
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posted on
08/28/2006 10:22:13 AM PDT
by
southlake_hoosier
(.... One Nation, Under God.......)
To: Lorianne
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posted on
08/28/2006 10:23:01 AM PDT
by
VOA
To: zook
"A person who has the guts and gumption to sit in on that kind of discussion should also have the guts and gumption to air it out later on."
Well, not everyone can be as perfect as you.
That said, have no opinion if the story is true.
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posted on
08/28/2006 10:23:35 AM PDT
by
MeanWestTexan
(Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
To: MeanWestTexan
This is a highly intelligent woman, probably very assertive, and certainly one who was able to speak her mind.
It's not a matter of perfection, but one of simple common sense.
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posted on
08/28/2006 10:25:21 AM PDT
by
zook
(McCain/Giuliani/Rice--2 of the 3 in 08!)
To: zook
I can't figure out why she didn't ask the Imam about what she had heard. I would have.Doing so would have blown her "cover". The Imam assumed so didn't understand Arabic and coveyed that to the others in the room. As a consequence, they assumed they could speak freely in Arabic without having the rabid conversion "overheard" by someone who might not be sympathetic to the message. She wasn't interested in finishing her day with a cut throat or a flaming gasoline shower.
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posted on
08/28/2006 10:25:57 AM PDT
by
Myrddin
To: Lorianne
lots of stuff to see when we look for it...:| LOTs of good info here, IMO:
http://www.meforum.org/article/686
"...All ICNA members are organized in small study groups of no more than eight people, called NeighborNets. As in a cult, these cells provide support and reinforcement for new recruits, who may have sought to fill a void in their lives. Its yearly convocations, patterned on the annual Tablighi Jamaat meetings in South Asia, now attract some 15,000 people.[50]"
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posted on
08/28/2006 10:26:57 AM PDT
by
callthemlikeyouseethem
(GWB: 12 Aug 06: "...I ask for your patience, cooperation, and vigilance in the coming days.")
To: Vision
Thank you for that reminder. Please post it often.
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posted on
08/28/2006 10:27:25 AM PDT
by
polymuser
(There is one enemy and one war.)
To: Trampled by Lambs
Though I don't doubt for a second that this sort of thing goes on in mosques around the country, something about this article just doesn't ring true for me.You obviously don't know squat about Laura Mansfield's background. If you did, you wouldn't display your ignorance with your reaction.
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posted on
08/28/2006 10:27:43 AM PDT
by
Myrddin
To: zook; Trampled by Lambs; MeanWestTexan
Hi zook- She likely didn't talk to the Imam because she doesn't want to tip her hand that a caucasian woman seated in the back understands exactly what they're saying in Arabic amongst themselves. If the story happened exactly as narrated, I would encourage her to continue this same practice of attending the "friendly" meetings and arriving "early" to read her books.
~ Blue Jays ~
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posted on
08/28/2006 10:29:19 AM PDT
by
Blue Jays
(Rock Hard, Ride Free)
To: Trampled by Lambs
I agree. She seems to be holding back to me.
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posted on
08/28/2006 10:29:44 AM PDT
by
subterfuge
(If Liberals hated terrorists like they hate Bush the war would be over by now)
To: CarrotAndStick
http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/jul202005/editpage177532005719.asp
Terrorism back in full swing
ISI-LeT nexus exposed
By G Parthasarathy
Is India prepared to face the challenge of Pakistan-sponsored terrorism within the country?
Barely a year ago, the former Director General of the ISI, Lt General Hamid Gul, told a friend of mine that the Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) had succeeded in establishing over three hundred sleeper cells to mount terrorist strikes in towns and cities across India. Similarly, I was also told by a former ISI chief that he was confident that the jihad in Kashmir would be made an issue of faith and religion in the minds of the Muslims of India. Another ISI chief proudly proclaimed that it was the aim of the ISI to weaken India from within. He said that he had no doubt that it would succeed in achieving this aim. Amongst the terrorist groups that Pakistan has used in its proxy war against India, the Lashkar has played the most dangerous role. It has been involved in the attack on the Red Fort on December 26, 2000, and in several terrorist attacks in Jammu and Kashmir, including the attack on the Corps Headquarters and the State Assembly in Srinagar. It has also attacked the religious complexes in Akshardham and Ayodhya.
Despite continuing evidence of the links between the ISI and the LeT, successive Governments in New Delhi have not developed any coherent strategy to deal with the threat that this organisation poses. What exactly are the aims of the Lashkar-e-Taiba? Its parent body, the Markaz Dawa Al Irshad, was set up in 1987, inspired by the role of Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan. Like bin Laden, the Markaz received ISI and CIA support to fight Soviet forces in Afghanistan.
Its leader was a professor at the Lahore University of Engineering and Technology, Hafiz Mohammed Saeed.
Receiving patronage from the ISI and bin Laden, Saeed had set up a 190-acre complex at Muridhke near Lahore, where he preached hatred of all Kaffirs, especially Hindus, Jews and Christians, who were declared enemies of Islam. Around 1996, the ISI started using Lashkar cadres for its jihad in Kashmir. Former Pakistan prime minister Nawaz Sharif had great regard for the Lashkar. His information minister, Mushahid Hussain (now secretary general of the pro-Musharraf Pakistan Muslim league), was a regular visitor to Muridhke.
Hafiz Saeed had also vowed that the objective of the LeT was not just to wage a jihad in J&K, but also to create three Muslim homelands, with Pakistan and Jammu and Kashmir constituting one, the Muslims of North India constituting the second and the Muslims of South India forming the third. On February 18, 1996, Hafiz Saeed declared: The jihad in Kashmir would soon spread to the entire India. Our mujahideen would create three Pakistans in India.
On October 9, 1997, he claimed that after J&K was liberated, Indian Muslims should be aroused to rise in revolt against the Indian Union so that India gets disintegrated. A few months later, in February 1998, Osama bin Laden formed the International Islamic Front for jihad against Jews and Crusaders, aimed at mounting terrorist strikes against the American and Israeli interests. The Lashkar-e-Taiba became a founding member of this Front and proclaimed that its aim was to unfurl the green flag of Islam in Washington, Tel Aviv and Delhi. When the Lashkar-e-Taiba attacked the Red Fort in Delhi, Hafiz Saeed proudly boasted that he had succeeded in unfurling the green flag of Islam in New Delhi. Further, after the recent gunning down of Lashkar terrorists in New Delhi, it is now clear that the potential is being developed to attack targets ranging from Information Technology centres in Bangalore to the Indian Military Academy in Dehra Dun.
Muslim youth from all over the world have been indoctrinated by the LeT to fight against Kaffirs all over the world. Its volunteers have fought in Bosnia and Chechnya, and have also joined the resistance against American forces in Iraq. The LeTs cadres have been arrested in Australia and the United States. There is evidence that the London bomb explosions of July 7 were the handiwork of young men of Pakistani origin who had visited Muridhke.
Despite substantial evidence about the activities of the Lashkar-e-Taiba, neither the United States nor the UK declared it a terrorist organisation until the December 13 attack on Indias Parliament. Both these countries felt that they would be spared the wrath of this organisation by ignoring its terrorist activities in places like India, Bosnia and Chechnya. They also have turned a blind eye to the links that the Lashkar has developed in Saudi Arabia, from where it receives financial support.
Both the US and the UK take a rather charitable attitude when it comes to issues of terrorist infrastructure in Pakistan and terrorist funding from Saudi Arabia. One hopes that they will learn some lessons on this score after the recent arrest of Pakistanis who had been trained by the Lashkar and had settled in California, and also in the light of the July 7 London bomb blasts.
New evidence has now emerged of increased ISI assistance to extremist and terrorist elements. It is well known that extremists of the Babbar Khalsa, including some involved in the assassination of the former Punjab Chief Minister, Mr Beant Singh, function out of the Dera Sahib Gurudwara in Lahore. Inciting Sikh pilgrims with slogans of Khalistan has been a continuing feature of Pakistans foreign policy. Hence the keenness of General Musharraf for an Amritsar-Lahore bus service.
We are now seeing the revival of Babbar Khalsa activities in India, with bomb blasts in Delhi movie theatres and the reactivation of its armed cadres in Punjab, Haryana and Delhi. This has come along with an increasing infiltration of terrorists across the Line of Control (LoC), despite efforts by India to limit such infiltration by fencing up the LoC and installing sensors along it. Pakistan is now set to step up its assistance to terrorist and separatist groups across India. Is New Delhi ready to meet this challenge?
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posted on
08/28/2006 10:29:48 AM PDT
by
CarrotAndStick
(The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
To: Lorianne
Lorianne, excellent post.
One line really hit me, and it helps to exemplify the fact that Islam's status as a religion has morphed to that of a cult: "Two different doctrines are being promoted."
This is exactly the kind of behavior (aka sales pitch) that a cult would use to garner followers.
The civilized world needs to understand, quickly, that Islam is a movement - a movement as dangerous to our survival as was Nazism. Undoubtedly, it will be just as costly.
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posted on
08/28/2006 10:29:50 AM PDT
by
Skywarner
(The U.S. Armed Forces... Producers of FREEDOM for over 200 years!!)
To: ncountylee
Lashkar means "army" in Dari and I suspect as well in Arabic as many Arabic words have migrated to the vernacular of many muslim countries.
To: rellimpank
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posted on
08/28/2006 10:30:13 AM PDT
by
RobbyS
( CHIRHO)
To: subterfuge
Have a look at her
website. She has a lot better handle on Islam and terrorism than most people on FR.
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posted on
08/28/2006 10:32:52 AM PDT
by
Myrddin
To: Lorianne
Just think of the prize-winning stories arabic-speaking journalists could write by infiltrating mosques in the same way.
< crickets chirping>
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posted on
08/28/2006 10:33:05 AM PDT
by
Aquinasfan
(When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
To: Lorianne
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posted on
08/28/2006 10:34:06 AM PDT
by
VOA
To: Lorianne
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posted on
08/28/2006 10:34:19 AM PDT
by
lowbridge
(I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming, like his passengers.)
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