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Plane Crashes in Lexington
WTVQ 36 Lexington ^ | August 27, 2006 | Jon Sasser

Posted on 08/27/2006 4:38:10 AM PDT by BigBlueJon

Edited on 08/27/2006 5:02:21 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Possible plane crash in Lexington, KY. My brother works security for Lexington UK Hospital and was just called in. No news locally or on major news outlets yet. I didn't want to post anything for fear of being wrong, but he's still waiting for an official call while on stand-by.

Update from WTVQ 36 Lexington:

A plane has crashed near the Blue Grass Airport this morning. No word on details at this time. We are told it was a commercial aircraft. Versailles Road is blocked as emergency vehicles circle around the site. We have live coverage beginning at 7:20am. Stay with Action News 36 for more details.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: airplane; bluegrassairport; comair; crash; delta; dl5191; kentucky; lex; lexington; plane; planecrash; terribletragedy; wreck
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To: F15Eagle
Nothing wrong with a commuter airplane. Cant say the same for a commercial commuter airplane pilot. Most are fine, but morons do get through the system occasionally.
461 posted on 08/27/2006 10:57:32 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: All

So fox puts up a picture of an Embraer, instead of a Bombardier...

Isn't there ANYBODY in these news orgs that knows a damn thing about flying??

I STILL remember sitting in the Bar at STL the day Valujet went in, with the woman talking about how old the aircraft were, while looking out the windows at TWA's oldest fleet in aviation at the time....


462 posted on 08/27/2006 10:58:57 AM PDT by tcrlaf (VOTE DEM! You'll Look GREAT In A Burqa!)
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To: jcs1744
However, it is very hard to substantiate that the military teaches "thinking" and "emergency procedures," better than a reputable commercial aviation program.

Yeah, but there is no training like the real thing. You should see some of the hunks of trash we take flying. I flew aging F-14As and every flight was a string of emergency procedures. :)

463 posted on 08/27/2006 10:59:00 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: don-o

They have that backwards. To get to the long runway you first have to cross the approach end of the short runway.


464 posted on 08/27/2006 10:59:21 AM PDT by Sting 11
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To: El Gato
Sun, if up,

But the sun wasn't up, again according to the local station, sunup was 7:05, an hour later.

Given that, I'd have thought they'd have noticed the "no lights" before they turned on to the runway.

465 posted on 08/27/2006 11:00:39 AM PDT by El Gato
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To: tcrlaf
Isn't there ANYBODY in these news orgs that knows a damn thing about flying??

No.......but the rest of their coverage on other topics is probably accurate......

If you tune into NBC I'm sure they will dig up Bob Arnot to comment on the crash. He's a doctor with a pilot's license.

466 posted on 08/27/2006 11:01:10 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: don-o

I am starting to get the calls now. One good friend was on that plane, as well as the younger sister, leaving on her honeymoon, of another good friend. This is going to be a long day.


467 posted on 08/27/2006 11:01:39 AM PDT by Bluegrass Federalist
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To: FutureSenatorFromKentucky

I am so sorry to hear of your loss.


468 posted on 08/27/2006 11:03:08 AM PDT by BigBlueJon (Superman wears Jack Bauer pajamas to bed.......Jack Bauer wears George W pajamas.)
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To: AGreatPer
That makes more sense than anything that we are hearing on TV.

I wouldn't trust a thing they're saying on TV, and I also wouldn't trust MSNBC's "sources confirming" a runway 26 departure. I suggest waiting for an NTSB presser or some other official word on what happened.

If there's one thing I've learned in my couple years in the industry, it's that the news media doesn't have a friggin' clue about aviation operations.

469 posted on 08/27/2006 11:03:17 AM PDT by Sting 11
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To: Sting 11
Crossing the short runway to get to the long runway is a lot like getting from the USMC ramp to the normal runway in Yuma. I could see this happening if the aircrew wasn't familiar, were tired.

People can talk about crew briefings, but who briefs getting to the runway?

470 posted on 08/27/2006 11:04:33 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: FutureSenatorFromKentucky

I am sorrry for your loss. That is all I can say. I was worried from the time I heard of this until I heard Brad's voice on the phone this morning


471 posted on 08/27/2006 11:05:10 AM PDT by don-o (Proudly posting without reading the thread since 1998. (stolen from one cool dude))
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To: Sting 11; All

MEMO TO FOX...

That's an EMBRAER, not a CRJ....


472 posted on 08/27/2006 11:05:19 AM PDT by tcrlaf (VOTE DEM! You'll Look GREAT In A Burqa!)
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To: jcs1744
KEEP THIS IN MIND ALSO: The captain may not have been pilot-in-command. The FO might have been at the controls and the pilot may have been operating the radios. I don't know how Comair works, but on many airlines, the captain and FO alternate PIC duties.

I am hearing someone was also in the jumpseat.

473 posted on 08/27/2006 11:06:05 AM PDT by OBXWanderer
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To: jcs1744
However, it is very hard to substantiate that the military teaches "thinking" and "emergency procedures," better than a reputable commercial aviation program.

Hmmmm, how to respond?......

Years ago, I used to have to take my students up for their first flights in the F-14. There are no flight controls in the back seat. That means, that if the kid upfront did not take to heart what he was told, he could easily kill us both.

Contrast that with the almost weekly news report of a commercial student and instructor having to put down on a freeway in their Cessna. Dangerous? yes. But, we are still talking about two different things altogether.

I say again, these schools do a fine job at what they do. IMHO they don't do enough, nor could they and stay in business, to teach pilots what to do in emergency situations.

475 posted on 08/27/2006 11:06:26 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: USNBandit

Obviously, we don't train on jets, they tend to be exceedingly expensive for a university to purchase. We do have a CRJ-200 and A319 sims though. However, airlines have adapted their training routines to the new hires they are training (coming through four-year flight degree programs or other aviation schools), most of whom have little or no turbine experience. I know a couple of friends who have caught on with a regional and they go through some pretty serious stuff in their initial training in the air.


476 posted on 08/27/2006 11:07:11 AM PDT by jcs1744
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To: USNBandit
You should see some of the hunks of trash we take flying. I flew aging F-14As and every flight was a string of emergency procedures. :)

Do you still dream of your breaker sequences? LOL.

477 posted on 08/27/2006 11:07:43 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: SkyPilot; Pukin Dog; COEXERJ145; microgood; liberallarry; cmsgop; shaggy eel; RayChuang88; ...
More recent reports indicate the plane used the wrong runway.


Click on the airport diagram

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478 posted on 08/27/2006 11:08:02 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: mewzilla
Was it dark at 6AM in Lexington, anyone know?

Official sun up was 7:03 AM. Here's the data for Lexington KY, from the US Naval Observatory site

Sunday
27 August 2006 Eastern Daylight Time
SUN
Begin civil twilight 6:36 a.m.
Sunrise 7:03 a.m.

So it should have been fairl dark.

479 posted on 08/27/2006 11:08:32 AM PDT by El Gato
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To: OBXWanderer

"I am hearing someone was also in the jumpseat."

As I said earlier...

yik,yak,yik yak, OOPS!


480 posted on 08/27/2006 11:09:04 AM PDT by tcrlaf (VOTE DEM! You'll Look GREAT In A Burqa!)
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