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eBay dumps homeschool teachers' texts
World Net Daily ^ | August 27, 2006

Posted on 08/26/2006 10:22:51 PM PDT by jdm

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To: Larry Lucido

You know who I'm talking about, too!


61 posted on 08/26/2006 11:34:10 PM PDT by 308MBR (Dar el Harb feels one 1,400 year long "Jihad" is enough for one planet. Bye, goat pokers.)
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To: 308MBR

The few examples you have seen aren't representative of the entire homeschool community, and I would bet that most homeschoolers have a far better understanding of civics than most people, adult and child, alike.

As far as eBay goes, I agree with you that it is eBay's business what they sell.
Ebay has the right to sell what they want and I would certainly be happy to sell my books somewhere else if that were the case. The very things we love about our free enterprise system people are complaining about.


62 posted on 08/26/2006 11:37:02 PM PDT by MTMS
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To: jdm

***A public school teacher defended the policy, saying she cannot get a teacher's edition from a publisher unless she provides proof of her teaching employment. "It is quite costly for publishers to research and develop curricula and it is copyrighted.***

***It is quite costly for publishers to research and develop curricula and it is copyrighted.***

What does copyright have to do with it? Used books are sold all the time on places like Amazon. And that includes books with a great deal of research. For that matter, my local library sells used books for $.75 for a paperback, and $1.50 for a hard cover.


63 posted on 08/26/2006 11:38:37 PM PDT by kitkat (The first step down to hell is to deny the existence of evil.)
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To: MTMS

More power to you, and I'm very happy to hear you have had no trouble.

I had a bad experience, it cost me a lot of money and so I will NEVER say a good thing about them.


64 posted on 08/26/2006 11:41:33 PM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: Gabz

"More power to you, and I'm very happy to hear you have had no trouble.

I had a bad experience, it cost me a lot of money and so I will NEVER say a good thing about them"

Well, then I can't blame you for feeling that way..sorry you got burned.


65 posted on 08/26/2006 11:43:35 PM PDT by MTMS
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To: 308MBR

What's your gripe about homeschoolers?????


And before you get your panties in a wad about my question, I'm not a homeschoolers. My daughter starts 3rd grade in the local public school the day after Labor day.


66 posted on 08/26/2006 11:44:28 PM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: 308MBR

If you disagree with someone, attack the specific statement where you disagree, not the person, nor the group as a whole.

Or stay off this thread.


67 posted on 08/26/2006 11:47:28 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: gitmo; All

Teachers Edition has now been replaced with 'Parental Edition'... That is the work around. I'm getting ready to list a bunch of home school books and that is the new solution.


68 posted on 08/26/2006 11:47:56 PM PDT by abner (Know islam, no peace; No islam, know peace.)
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To: abner

FReepmail me if any of them are for 3rd or 4th grade.....


69 posted on 08/26/2006 11:54:55 PM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: MTMS; blu

Both of you are misconstruing my statement. If eBay wants to enable the sale of those materials on their auction site, then they need a way to certify the bidders are qualified to purchase those materials. If not, then they can't allow the sale of those items.

eBay is a business and it must conform to rules for the sale of certain classes of goods.

The fact that eBay chooses to simply not allow the sale of teacher version text books means this is an opportunity for another business to facilitate the sale and transfer of such texts between people who are qualified for such transactions.

I was at Borders the other day, and I overheard a homeschool mother talking with one of the employees. The homeschool mother was buying some things for the new school year, but certain items were restricted, and she was waiting on a letter from the local school district in order to prove that she was a qualified purchaser.

This is a reality of the system, and if Borders has the same requirement, why shouldn't eBay? And if eBay can't ignore the regulations, then they shouldn't be impugned for deciding to cancel the offending auctions.


70 posted on 08/26/2006 11:55:15 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: coconutt2000
What eBay needs to do is set up a system of certifying home school parents and certified teachers, and then limiting the bidding for such items to those users.

Why does eBay "need to" do that? Sounds to me like there's an unmet need and an opportunity for an entrepreneur to step in.

71 posted on 08/26/2006 11:56:21 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: ReignOfError

If eBay wants to serve that market, they'd need to meet the requirements regulating the teaching materials, in which case they'd need a system for certifying the bidders.

If eBay chooses not to, it is an opportunity for a third party - who will also need some way of certifying recipients.


72 posted on 08/27/2006 12:03:31 AM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Myrddin
I'm a homeschooler. I have been homeschooling for over twelve years. Ebay is not making it impossible for us to purchase teachers editions. They are just making it impossible to purchase them on Ebay. There are many other homeschooling swap boards where we can buy and sell books including teacher's editions. Most of them are free.

I guess I don't really have a problem with this. There are some unscrupulous public school kids who like to pick up teacher's editions. Perhaps this will make it a bit more difficult for them.

73 posted on 08/27/2006 12:05:28 AM PDT by Waryone
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To: jdm
[ A new policy by Internet trading behemoth eBay that bans homeschool teachers' texts from its auctions is prompting a tirade of complaints from the company's faithful customers. ]

Sounds like an opportunity for someone to MAKE SOME MONEY..
Providing said links, sources and providers to homeschoolers if not actual materials......

74 posted on 08/27/2006 12:15:08 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole.)
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To: Waryone
There are some unscrupulous public school kids who like to pick up teacher's editions. Perhaps this will make it a bit more difficult for them.

That is the crux of the problem. Kids "earning" a higher GPA without ever actually learning the material by virtue of turning in complete and 100% correct homework. A good teacher would suspect a serious problem if such a student crashed and burned when taking an exam on the same subject matter in the classroom.

I taught college electronics and microprocessor programming/design classes for 3 1/2 years before my full time job made it impossible to teach in the evenings. My students ranged in age from 15 to 67. Skill levels, experience and aptitude were likewise wide ranging. There wasn't a "teacher's" edition for my classroom text. Fortunately, I didn't need one.

75 posted on 08/27/2006 12:15:47 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: coconutt2000
What legal basis is there for a private party not to be able to sell a book to another private party?

And how does said transaction impact eBay in any negative way?

Copyright allows for the reselling of books as long as they are not copies.

This is simply school text book companies protecting there business via eBay - probably with a little payola involved...

Anyone bent on cheating can get the info via many other Internet resources so it doesn't further that stated goal. The only real impact is more people will end up spending more of their money homeschooling their children. Even though they pay heavy property taxes to educate other peoples children... Basically just another obstacle...

76 posted on 08/27/2006 12:17:08 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: jdm
BS. eBay's overview of prohibited items includes... "autographed items"

RARE authentic DeForest KELLEY Autographed 8x10 COA

WILLIAM SHATNER - CAPTAIN KIRK SIGNED AUTOGRAPH PHOTO

AUTHENTIC PHOTOGRAPHS STAR TREK 4 CAPTAINS AUTO PERSONALLY AUTOGRAPHED BY CAPTAINS WILLIAM SHATNER PATRICK STEWART AVERY BROOKS KATE MULGREW

Star Trek Original Cast Signed 10" x 8" Photograph P/P

Star Trek Voyager Duncan Robert McNeill Photo Signed

That doesn't even get half way through the first page of "Star Trek photographs" searched.

eBay's overview of prohibited items includes... used clothing

Up for auction is a very gently used Womens Plus size 18/20 stonewashed denim shirt.

THIS SKIRT IS LONG WITH A FLARED BOTTOM NO POCKETS GENDLY WORN

Item Specifics - Women's Clothing Clothing Type: Tops/Blouses/T-Shirts Color: -- Size: -- Fabric: -- Style: -- Garment Care: -- Condition: Used

I could go on all night, but I think you get the idea.

77 posted on 08/27/2006 12:17:24 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: jdm

Not outrageous. It is totally consistent. They don't allow resale of govt. school or homeschool teachers answer books because they don't want the students getting their hands on them.

It makes "homework" too easy by looking up the answer.

Of course, a group of homeschool subversives could always take the texts used by govt. schools and publish "answer sheets" and put them on the web in order to bring down the public school system.

Not that I am advocating that.


78 posted on 08/27/2006 12:25:04 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: jdm
I think this is ridiculous, but hey, it's eBay's site, they can set whatever retarded policy they like.

Seems to me, this might be a fruitful opportunity for an enterprising, scorned homeschool teacher to set up an eBay copycat site that markets exclusively to those who wish to buy/sell that which eBay prohibits.

79 posted on 08/27/2006 12:26:09 AM PDT by Proud2BAmerican
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To: Arkinsaw

My thoughts exactly. I can even imagine a mass marketing e-mail sent out with the simple subject line "Screwed by eBay? Here's an alternative!"


80 posted on 08/27/2006 12:28:24 AM PDT by Proud2BAmerican
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