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To: Tribune7
If Carrier claims that Nazism in general . . . was without doubt a Christian movement and cites the belt buckles and the Reichsconcordat he's not someone who can be taken seriously.

His claims about the bogus quotes have survived peer review. I have also checked them. That was what we were discussing, not Carrier's atheism. Deal with it. "Christianity teaches 'transubstantiation,' which is the maddest thing ever concocted by a human mind in its delusions, a mockery of all that is godly."

Transubstantiation is not accepted by most Christians. Surely you know that.

It seems to me you are pretty much splitting hairs. Hitler was not a Christian and hated Christianity.

Hitler was critical of Christianity in some passages, and accepting of much of its doctrine in others. He was of course a monster, and much of his language is immoderate.

I guess Hitler was a Darwinist, after all.

That was Spencer's phrase, not Darwin's.

695 posted on 08/25/2006 6:16:40 AM PDT by DanDenDar
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To: DanDenDar
Deal with it.

What we are dealing with is a claim that Hitler was a Christian. Table Talk is pretty good evidence that he wasn't. Carrier, who has an agenda to convince the world that Hitler was some kind of a Christian, found some translation problems. Even taking into account that Carrier is right, Table Talk -- using Carrier's claims -- still shows Hitler to be an anti-Christian.

Transubstantiation is not accepted by most Christians. Surely you know that.

Again, we'll call that progress. Another one conceding that Hitler was not a Catholic. And transubstantion is accepted by about half of all Christians.

Hitler was critical of Christianity in some passages, and accepting of much of its doctrine in others.

Like Jesus being an Aryan? LOL.

That was Spencer's phrase, not Darwin's.

Spencer was a Darwnist.

702 posted on 08/25/2006 6:40:27 AM PDT by Tribune7
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