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To: js1138

Hitler was a great evolutionist/Darwinist. Survival of the fittest, and he was going to be the fittest.


2 posted on 08/22/2006 2:06:08 PM PDT by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: Bosco

Evangelical nutcases claiming Darwin is responsible for Hitler.


4 posted on 08/22/2006 2:09:42 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: Bosco
>Hitler was a great evolutionist/Darwinist. Survival of the fittest, and he was going to be the fittest

His "thousand year Reich"
sounds like Christ's "millennial
kingdom
." Shall we blame

Christians for giving
Hitler the whole idea
of a perfect realm?

8 posted on 08/22/2006 2:13:34 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Bosco; js1138

Hitler believed in selective breeding, not natural selection. They're not the same thing.

And selective breeding was around long before Darwin.


16 posted on 08/22/2006 2:22:43 PM PDT by From many - one.
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To: Bosco

> Hitler was a great evolutionist/Darwinist.

One of the great lies of the age. Hitler was a *Creationist.* He believed that Man, specifically Aryan man, had been plopped fully formed and perfect onto Earth by Providence.


27 posted on 08/22/2006 2:28:24 PM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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To: Bosco
Some good articles linking the Nazis and Darwin are to be found here.

Communism and Nazism Questions and Answers

The following is long and detailed with references.

Darwinism and the Nazi race Holocaust

Part of the article is below.

Introduction

Of the many factors that produced the Nazi holocaust and World War II, one of the most important was Darwin’s notion that evolutionary progress occurs mainly as a result of the elimination of the weak in the struggle for survival. Although it is no easy task to assess the conflicting motives of Hitler and his supporters, Darwinism-inspired eugenics clearly played a critical role. Darwinism justified and encouraged the Nazi views on both race and war. If the Nazi party had fully embraced and consistently acted on the belief that all humans were descendants of Adam and Eve and equal before the creator God, as taught in both the Old Testament and New Testament Scriptures, the holocaust would never have occurred.

Expunging of the Judeo-Christian doctrine of the divine origin of humans from mainline German (liberal) theology and its schools, and replacing it with Darwinism, openly contributed to the acceptance of Social Darwinism that culminated in the tragedy of the holocaust.1 Darwin’s theory, as modified by Haeckel,2,3,4,5,6 Chamberlain7 and others, clearly contributed to the death of over nine million people in concentration camps, and about 40 million other humans in a war that cost about six trillion dollars. Furthermore, the primary reason that Nazism reached to the extent of the holocaust was the widespread acceptance of Social Darwinism by the scientific and academic community.1,8,9,10

The very heart of Darwinism is the belief that evolution proceeds by the differential survival of the fittest or superior individuals. This requires differences among a species, which in time become great enough so that those individuals that possess advantageous features—the fittest—are more apt to survive. Although the process of raciation may begin with slight differences, differential survival rates in time produce distinct races by a process called speciation, meaning the development of a new species.

The egalitarian ideal that ‘all people are created equal’, which now dominates Western ideology, has not been universal among nations and cultures.11 A major force that has argued against this view was the Social Darwinian eugenics movement, especially its crude ‘survival of the fittest’ worldview.10,12 As Ludmerer noted, the idea that the hereditary quality of the race can be improved by selective breeding is as old as Plato’s Republic but:

‘ … modern eugenics thought arose only in the nineteenth century. The emergence of interest in eugenics during that century had multiple roots. The most important was the theory of evolution, for Francis Galton’s ideas on eugenics—and it was he who created the term “eugenics”—were a direct logical outgrowth of the scientific doctrine elaborated by his cousin, Charles Darwin.’ 13

Nazi governmental policy was openly influenced by Darwinism, the Zeitgeist of both science and educated society of the time.10 This can be evaluated by an examination of extant documents, writings, and artefacts produced by Germany’s twentieth century Nazi movement and its many scientist supporters. Keith concluded the Nazi treatment of Jews and other ‘races’, then believed ‘inferior’, was largely a result of their belief that Darwinism provided profound insight that could be used to significantly improve humankind.14 Tenenbaum noted that the political philosophy of Germany was built on the belief that critical for evolutionary progress were:

‘ … struggle, selection, and survival of the fittest, all notions and observations arrived at … by Darwin … but already in luxuriant bud in the German social philosophy of the nineteenth century. … Thus developed the doctrine of Germany’s inherent right to rule the world on the basis of superior strength … [of a] “hammer and anvil” relationship between the Reich and the weaker nations.’ 14

85 posted on 08/22/2006 3:16:22 PM PDT by protest1
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To: Bosco
"Hitler was a great evolutionist/Darwinist. Survival of the fittest, and he was going to be the fittest."
 
 
 
He's dead Jim!
 
 

127 posted on 08/22/2006 5:41:12 PM PDT by Radix (Law was made for Man, and Man was not made for the Law.)
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To: Bosco
Hitler was a great evolutionist/Darwinist. Survival of the fittest, and he was going to be the fittest.

Hitler was a great Antisemite. If someone should be blamed it should be Martin Luther.

256 posted on 08/23/2006 6:01:44 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Bosco
The term 'survival of the fittest' was coined by Herbert Spencer and was meant economically not biologically.
726 posted on 08/25/2006 10:03:23 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Bosco
Hitler twisted the theory of evolution to suit his purposes.

Do yourself a favor and learn more about why Franz Boaz and other anthropologists fought hard against lies like Hitler's

821 posted on 08/27/2006 7:31:50 PM PDT by Alkhin (Thieving tyranny is all they offer.)
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