There is nothing lower on the face of this earth (except maybe an Islamofascist ready and willing to kill their baby)!
Posted on 08/18/2006 3:55:09 AM PDT by Liz
Three pillars of liberalism - moral relativity, the sexual "revolution" and the obsession with "rights" - are on a collision course with reality in Ohio's Common Pleas Court......Phillip Distasio - accused of sexually assaulting nine boys with physical or mental disabilities - claimed that having sex with children "is a sacred ritual protected by civil-rights laws......I've been a pedophile for 20 years. The only reason I'm charged with rape is that no one believes a child can consent to sex..........."
Shocking? Certainly not - if one takes the aforementioned pillars to their "logical" conclusions: Right and wrong are relative, sexual taboos are anachronistic and individual rights are paramount.
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I think we should assume that this guy consents to getting his a$$ kicked by whoever feels the desire to do so. It is our constitutional right to do so, you know.
No, only certain people will see them as "normal." The rest of us will be labeled as "pedophobes," for being so insensitive.
There is nothing lower on the face of this earth (except maybe an Islamofascist ready and willing to kill their baby)!
Yuck---pooey---spit.
And also, there is good reason to believe that there is a biological link to pedophilia.
That certainly is a liberal attitude ok. No personal responsibility, just blame it on biology.
You are always welcome here.
Any boilogical link to pedophilia is a link to a natural sexual urdge, which is misplaced, and misdirected. Nowhere in our history has kiddy-rape been acceptable behavior (with the exception of the Mohammedans and THE other perverted groups like NAMBLA). It is just plain wrong. You sound as if you are an apologist for them, is some ways.
Child rapists are a perverse scum, on a level with homosexuals. They are an abomination and a cancer on society. I would argue they are all sub-human, since their only goal is sexual perversion and physical gratifications, instead of nurturing the human race!
The Psychaitrists are apologists for every human deviancy, so I would expect no less from them! They will find a pill for it, or proscribe 20 $95 half-hour sessions on the couch and a pat on the butt!
flamethrower
There is a biological link to just about everything. That doesn't exempt humans from being free moral agents with choices. While many liberals might be outraged by this guy, I think his "rights" argument has a better chance in front of a liberal judge than a conservative judge.
To my knowledge all discrimination laws state something like 'no discrimination due to sexual preference'.
IMHO,It follows that any sexual deviancy is legal.
I've been sitting back and waiting for a judge to follow the letter of the law.
No, no, no. You are being soooooooooooooo insensitive. I say we hang him with a semi-disabled rope using only 9 loops in symbolic honor of his "rights".
Moral relativism is a slippery slope.
Sounds like he's on the wrong forum.
That'll work, too.
Stare decisis----existing laws on the books penalize sex with children.
..........thank heavens...........
Certainly works for me, f. Open fire!
As for your comment re: history, pedophilia and the "Mohammedans," you're actually wrong. There have been probably thousands of societies in the history of earth where this was perfectly acceptable. Even in America until a few decades ago it was perfectly legal to marry a 12 year old...and I hardly think that a 12 year old is capable of giving consent, well, at least then they weren't, before advertising made it "cool" to prostitute yourself as young as possible. In ancient Greece, where our model of democracy comes from and our philosophical leanings in the West in general are derived from, a student was also the lover of his teacher (I say his because there were no female teachers then...women belonged in the home tending to the slaves and making dinner in ancient Greece). Do I agree with that bit? Absolutely not...I know I wouldn't have wanted to have been some old codger's love-toy while I was earning my Ph.D., and I think that women should be doing just as much as men in our society to whatever extent they feel like, but that is part of history, and we can dismiss it, we can label them, whatever, but we can't deny it is part of our cultural heritage.
As for homosexuality, I have absolutely no problem with it when it is between two consenting adults, and you'll probably say that's because I'm a liberal, but the reality is that they are not threatening you in any way, are they? I've noticed the link at the top of the main page that leads to the "Homosexual Agenda," which I've always thought to be hilarious. If there is a "homosexual agenda," it's most likely an agenda to redecorate my house in pastels! I mean, the reason that giraffes are going extict is because the vast majority of the males born are actually homosexual. Is there an "agenda" there? (No one has figured out why yet). Obviously, you're arguing the difference between free will, which you ascribe to humans, and nature, which you would ascribe to animals, and therefore there is no agenda for the giraffes. Do you really believe that homosexuals want to "turn" everyone to their "side" and cause a complete extinction of the human species?
Can I ask you a question regarding what you mean by nurturing the human race? I guess that's rather rhetorical since I'm going to ask a few...how did you feel about Israel's response to the Lebanon in retaliation to capturing two soldiers? How do you feel about what's going on in the Sudan? Sri Lanka? Nepal? Would you like America to attack Iran? How do you feel about the fact that America is supplying the vast majority of the weapons to all of the conflicts around the world? Does that "nurture" the human race? Or does that nurture your vision of what the world should be? I don't adhere to a strict ideology of liberalism, and obviously everyone who is capable of thought has their own visions of how the world should be, but I for one do not like the idea of American exceptionalism...it's hubris, to put it lightly.
As for psychiatrists, they are actually medical doctors with the exact same training as any other doctor you go to see, only they specialize in the brain, much the same way as neurosurgeons do. Do you think that neurosurgeons are apologists? I assume you meant psychologists, which only requires a doctor of philosophy, and you might be lumping in all of the Freudian psychologists with the new breed, so to speak. I'm willing to bet that if you took part in a Milgram experiment (sadly illegal now...unless it's televised, where it's allowed for some dumb reason) or a Breecher experiment, you'd behave just the way that everyone else around the world behaves when they participate. There is a whole lot about psychology that is invaluable to our understanding of what it is to be human. Personally, I think most "therapy," is completely bunk, but I do know a whole lot of people with personality disorders who have gained a lot of benefit from medications (like actually being able to go and get a job and pay taxes rather than raving and cutting themselves). (Oh, yeah...while I love free speech...I hate NAMBLA the same way I hate the Klan...sometimes I really just want someone to say STFU to them for good!)
to cdcdawg
I think his "rights" argument will get tossed out by just about everyone, liberal or conservative.
to Seeing More Clearly Now
I'm aware that moral relativism is a slippery slope...I'm an anthropologist, and it's a danger that we're constantly faced with, probably to far greater extremes than most people ever will in their lives. I've lived in the Middle East, but does that mean that I like the idea of female circumcision? Absolutely not! It's a horrendous thing. (Which, incidentally, was practiced in Europe and America as recently as 100 years ago amongst Christians). I study ethic violence, but I don't take sides in it, and try to justify it. What I do is try to explain the why and look to how we can prevent it in the future. As I said in my first post and later, I think this guy deserves the worst that can happen to him, he's just going for the "twinkie defense" version to see if he can get out of it.
Nowhere in any of my earlier posts did I suggest anything even resembling moral relativism...I was just pointing out that there are definate cases of biological causation of pedophilia. Does it mean that all cases are? Absolutely not..see my earlier post.
to Graybeard58
No, as I said in my first post, I've lurked here a long time...the site is great for news, and that's really what I'm a junkie for...info. And I always love to get a discussion going...who knows, you may change my opinions!
No, it's moral authority, to put it accurately. We've liberated more people from tyranny than all other nations throughout recorded history. Liberalism is infested with the inability to realize that some belief systems and nations are much more moral than others.
That's interesting. Usama bin Laden is nothing if not a staunch conservative, and I'm certain that he believes that his system that he would like to impose is much more moral than our current one, as do his followers. Let me stress that I'm not comparing conservatives in any way, shape or form to that f*cktard. I'm just saying that his vision of the world is a highly conservative one from a Qu'ranic perspective.
As for the whole recorded history bit, I doubt that, but if you can provide me with a substantive list of all the nations the U.S. has liberated from tyranny in the last 230 years, and a list of all the other nations and peoples liberated from tyrants over the last, say, 12,000 years, or roughly since the birth of agriculture, then I'll believe you. As for our moral authority, where does that come from? Believe me, I love our Constitution, and I'm extremely proud of the fact that we are 1) the oldest Republic on the planet and 2) have the oldest Constitution, but "moral authority" rests with the people, and what makes us better than others?
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