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Federal Judge rules NSA surveillance unconstitutional!
ABC Radio News | 8/17/2006 | ABC Radio News

Posted on 08/17/2006 9:06:43 AM PDT by sinkspur

A federal district judge in Detroit has ruled that the Bush administration's NSA surveillance of phone conversations is unconstitutional.


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To: atlaw
"jrooney seems to recall a Time article that mentioned it. He and I are trying to locate it. If you run across other cites or references to it, I'd appreciate it if you'd give me ping. Thanks --"

Will do. I certainly recall HEARING it several times on Fox news during multiple shows. If I get wind of it again I'll shoot ya a ping.

401 posted on 08/17/2006 1:43:03 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: Just A Nobody
THE PRESIDENT'S CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY TO CONDUCT MILITARY OPERATIONS AGAINST TERRORISTS AND NATIONS SUPPORTING THEM

TITLE 50 > CHAPTER 36 > SUBCHAPTER I > § 1802 Prev | § 1802. Electronic surveillance authorization without court order; certification by Attorney General

Bush was denied wiretaps, bypassed them (FISA Court denied them in unprecedented numbers)

FISA JUDGES SAY BUSH WITHIN THE LAW (Why Has the MSM Ignored This Story?)

The first link isn't about wiretapping Americans making phone calls at all. Not sure why you posted it.

The second link is about wiretapping, but says it only applies when nobody involved is in the USA. Obviously inapplicable here since TSP involves wiretapping people in the USA.

The third link indicates the FISA court denied some 3% (179 of the 5,645) of the Bush Admin's wiretap requests - astonishing when you consider they'd only done that to 2 of the prior 13,102 applications in 22 years - a real rubberstamp court. So when they stopped rubberstamping his requests, he ignored the law and stopped asking for them. So much for 'faithfully executing the laws' on the President's part. Denying an 'unprecdented' 3% of wiretap applications simply doesn't justify ignoring and breaking the law.

The fourth link is about some *retired* FISA judges. They also agreed the law needed changing and that Bush was in risk of being dragged into the USSC. So it isn't a very good support, is it?

These are the best arguments you can come up with? Did you even read them before you posted them or what?

--R.

402 posted on 08/17/2006 1:43:37 PM PDT by RustMartialis
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To: TaxRelief
Yes, an Executive Order that has the force of law, is a law for the purposes of federal court jurisdiction. However, without reading more than the headlines, I feel certain this ruling will be reversed on appeal.

I am looking forward (but not with pleasure) to reading the opinion in the case, and the judicial and appointment background of the judge who issued this opinion.

Congressman Billybob

Latest article: "The Democrat Party - 1828 - 2006 - R.I.P."

Please see my most recent new statement on running for Congress, here.

403 posted on 08/17/2006 1:47:43 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Have a look-see. Please get involved.)
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To: sinkspur

a little about judge anna diggs taylors baggage.....her daddy was a crook.....this has been forgotten by many, and maybe it explains her anti-America ruling:

Charles C. Diggs, Jr.

Democrat, Michigan (1955-1980)

The Honorable Charles C. Diggs, Jr. was found guilty in 1978 for taking kickbacks from three of his congressional staffers; he was re-elected to office; then censured by the House, and finally resigned, then went to prison for 7 months.

Indicted of 11 counts of mail fraud and 18 counts of falsifying congressional payrolls. Prosecutors said he received $66,000 in kickbacks from 1973-1977 from several staffers, and used some of that money for his personal business and congressional expenses.

Guilty of: Diggs was found guilty of all 29 counts against him in October 1978, then the next month he was re-elected to his 13th term in Congress.

The Jailbird Count. Prison term: 7 months at minimum-security prison at Maxwell Air Force Base in Alabama. Diggs became a member of the Congressional Prison Caucus.

Congressional censure: In July 1979, the House of Representatives unanimously censured Diggs, after half an hour of floor discussion. No Member of Congress stood up to defend him. In a letter to his colleagues, Diggs admitted misuse of public funds for private use. He apologized to Congress and agreed to repay the House more than $45,000 and accept the censure. The fine would come out of his paycheck, at $500 a month. (A nice sweet deal: that means Diggs would have to stay in office another 7-1/2 years and have $500 deducted each month to pay restitution. But that didn't happen.)

Diggs also faced a $29,000 tax bill from the IRS for failing to pay income taxes on the payroll kickback money.

After having been found guilty, then disgraced by his colleagues in Congress, it still took Diggs another full year to resign from Congress, in June 1980. He probably waited until June so that he could still collect his Congressional salary and to wait the verdict of the U.S. Supreme Court. Diggs appealed to the Court to review his conviction; the Court let his conviction stand without comment.

Historical note: Only once before in the twentieth century had the House censured a member, and that was 60 years earlier in a case of a Texas Congressman who was punished for inserting objectionable material into the Congressional Record

The C.B.B. Spin

Diggs's excuse: The employees willingly gave him the kick-backs because he was in "very dire financial straits."



Sources: Richard L. Lyons, "Rep. Diggs Admits Misuse of Funds, Accepts Censure," Washington Post, June 30, 1979, A1. Irvin Molotsky, "Obituary: Charles Diggs, 75, Congressman Censured Over Kickbacks," New York Times, August 26, 1998, D18

http://www.congressionalbadboys.com/Diggs.htm


404 posted on 08/17/2006 1:51:25 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Clump

So here's my question. when coming across the border, you are subject to search, correct? There are no warrants involved, and I don't believe they need "probable cause" to do it. So if it's okay to search persons or cars coming across the border, why not information as well?

If this is a dumb point, feel free to say so. Just a thought.


405 posted on 08/17/2006 1:53:07 PM PDT by letsgonova19087
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To: craig_eddy; Fudd Fan; tiredoflaundry

JMO, but, this is going to go all the way to the SCOTUS and Roberts can stay in on this one, so I do not expect it to stick.

Mark Levin is going to be hot tonight!

We better stock the lounge early!


406 posted on 08/17/2006 1:53:37 PM PDT by HonestConservative ((It's SNOWING!))
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To: letsgonova19087

Not at all. I think its brilliant.

Go Nova!


407 posted on 08/17/2006 1:54:49 PM PDT by HonestConservative ((It's SNOWING!))
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To: NormsRevenge
The ACLU always shops for the right federal judge, that
will fit their lawsuit.   Taylor's ruling will be
overturned by appellate review, or the SCOTUS.



 
Taylor, Anna Katherine Johnston Diggs
Born 1932 in Washington, DC

Federal Judicial Service:
Judge, U. S. District Court, Eastern District of Michigan
Nominated by Jimmy Carter on May 17, 1979, to a new seat created by 92 Stat. 1629; Confirmed by the Senate on October 31, 1979, and received commission on November 2, 1979. Served as chief judge, 1996-1998. Assumed senior status on December 31, 1998.

Education:
Barnard College, B.A., 1954

Yale Law School, LL.B., 1957

Professional Career:
Attorney, Office of Solicitor, U.S. Department of Labor, Washington, DC, 1957-1960
Assistant Wayne County prosecutor, Michigan, 1961-1962
Assistant U.S. attorney, Detroit, Michigan, 1966
Legislative assistant / Detroit office manager, U.S. Rep. Charles C. Diggs, Jr., 1967-70
Private practice, Detroit, Michigan, 1970-1975
Adjunct professor, Wayne State University School of Labor and Industrial Relations, 1972-1975
Supervising assistant corporation counsel, City of Detroit, Law Department, 1975-1979
Adjunct professor, Wayne State University Law School, 1976-1977

Race or Ethnicity: African American

Gender: Female





 

409 posted on 08/17/2006 1:59:26 PM PDT by Smartass ("In God We Trust" - "An informed and knowledgeably citizen is the best defense against tyranny")
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To: cajungirl

look, it took til comment #6: "What was the judges name btw?" haha.


410 posted on 08/17/2006 2:13:42 PM PDT by dangerfield
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To: mystery-ak; Peach; Mo1; All
The lead attorney for the plaintiffs ... isn't she lovely, and what an attractive group of supporters ///////// sarc.

Banish the lot from this land they apparently hate so much!!

411 posted on 08/17/2006 2:19:40 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: STARWISE

She looks like the NOW crowd


412 posted on 08/17/2006 2:27:19 PM PDT by Mo1 (Bolton- "No one has explained how you negotiate a ceasefire with terrorists")
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To: letsgonova19087
You make an interesting point. The reason searches done at airports and even subways are Ok is because the SCOTUS has said that "administrative searches" are subject to the "reasonable" portion of the 4th Amendment.

This is because the search is not being conducted for the purpose of conducting a criminal investigation. The court considers first whether the activity in question is done with a "reasonable expectation of privacy". Many things that look like a search, are not in fact searches for 4th Amendment purposes. This is because the activity does not carry the expectation of privacy under the circumstances.

It is a difficult analysis, and in all sincerity we should always be a check on the government's use of power. But the way to protect our liberty is by first protecting our very lives. We must elect good people if we are to be a free people. We must also be HEAVILY ARMED.

A strong constitution does not mean we have to be weak and vulnerable. I have to admit that my view of this issue has evolved (I hate that word) over the last 5 years. The danger is real, and it is more serious to me than my boring phone calls and e-mails being monitored. I don't know any other way to say it.

413 posted on 08/17/2006 2:33:20 PM PDT by Clump
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To: sinkspur

Alright. Don't panic. This is only a conspiracy plot, by the Republicans -- sorry, I meant, by Pres. Bush. So, as when the bastards hit us, we repubs can say, "I told you so.."


414 posted on 08/17/2006 2:38:48 PM PDT by onyx eyes (.......................................can you say.... terr o rist...?)
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To: Clump

So those searches are OK because, when you come across the border or get on an airplane, you expect to be searched?


415 posted on 08/17/2006 2:42:50 PM PDT by letsgonova19087
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To: ikez78
These libs are gonna get us killed.

Before we let them do this to us, isn't there a way to impeach judges. It seems to me that if the people were able to successfully remove one of these judges others would have to think before they made political instead of rational decisions.

416 posted on 08/17/2006 2:47:09 PM PDT by kempster
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To: sinkspur

Get every Dem on the record now... Figures when you need the MSM to get campaign ad snippets for all those that oppose saving Americans from certain death, they are no where to be found.


417 posted on 08/17/2006 2:49:44 PM PDT by tomnbeverly (Thank God for Domestic Surveillance or thank the President either way just be thankful.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Well, all I know is a federal judge has ruled the warrantless wiretapping illegal and unconstitutional. The president feels he doesn't have to use FISA. The president also feels he can basically do whatever he wants to "fight terrorism." Thank God at least one federal judge feels there must be some restraint on the executive's powers, especially seeing as we are not in a period of war.

Article 2 of the Constitution states that the president must "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed." Clearly, by circumventing FISA, president Bush is not faithfully executing any law, but is rather violating it. I suggest you take some time to read the Constitution of the US before you do any further harm to your reputation, whatever that might be.


418 posted on 08/17/2006 2:50:48 PM PDT by Fjord
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To: letsgonova19087

Your musings on ECHELON are just that... neither you nor I know exactly what ECHELON does. I personally find that alarming. I think government secrecy does more harm than good and circumvents a free society.


419 posted on 08/17/2006 2:52:51 PM PDT by Fjord
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To: sinkspur
You might be surprised at how well Ms. Strayhorn does in the fall against our stupid Aggie Governor. He sure isn't on our side with lowering property taxes (wait until you see your estimate for next year), air pollution (with his fast-tracking the permits for 11 more polluting coal plants just south of us here in the DFW area, school finance is still a joke, and the list goes on. If Ms. Strayhorn will get off the "grandma" BS and talk about issues, she will have more than a chance against Perry. My $.02
420 posted on 08/17/2006 2:54:01 PM PDT by reedmelnick
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