[RippyO]

In my opinion, the ToE offers the best explanation for speciation we currently have I appreciate you saying that.

At least for me, the reason I am so adamant about the subject is the dishonesty of the IDers. Their motive is religious, no sane person can doubt that. One the ID foot is through the door, it's safe to say creationism would get a much bigger foothold. Which worries me because the Church, which is based on faith, and science, which is based on method, MUST remain separate, for the good of both. BTW, Steve b's comments are spot on. Why can't we have "discussion" on homosexuality and gun control? Why can't we have "compromise". What are you so "afraid" of? Same principle.

[wintertime]

Their motive is religious, no sane person can doubt that.

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The motives of evolutionists are not religious, BUT, the consequences of evolutions are profoundly political, cultural, and RELIGIOUS.

This is why there is continual acrimony over evolution and hundreds of other issues in the government schools.

It is axiomatic: Government schools never were, are not now, and never can be religiously, politically, or culturally neutral. The government school will ALWAYS be establishing the religion of some while destroying the religion of others.

Solution: Immediately begin the process of privatizing universal K-12 education.

[Antoninus]

Which worries me because the Church, which is based on faith, and science, which is based on method, MUST remain separate, for the good of both.

Interesting observation considering that the scientific method itself was created and perfected by the Catholic Church. Great scientists like Copernicus and Gregor Mendel would likely be amused by your notion that Church and Science must remain separate.

Christianity can not be in any way harmed by science. As Christians believe that God created the world, anything that we can prove about the world through scientific experimentation must be True and not contradictory to the Faith. That said, theological ideas must not be radically reconsidered based on theory.

The problem with Darwinism is that many people have taken a theory about animal speciation and used it as the foundation for their atheism. Thus, any criticism of this theory must be anathema to them on a crypto-religious level. That's why scientists who express doubt about Darwinian evolution are excoriated and their livelihoods threatened.