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To: Rightfootforward
Why do academics ignore Welsh records?

Victors write the history. Traditions of defeated people get turned into "myth" anytime they are in conflict with "real" history.

The oldest surviving Gothic Bible is dated to about 350 AD. Goths are believed to have originated in Southern Sweden & they were a Germanic people. History books say Charlemagne "Christianized" those "barbaric pagan" German tribes.

Back to Wales. Welsh built stockade type forts & they retreated from them when necessary to survive. They'd attack parties trying to forage from the locations of their former forts. The Welch long bow was useful for this, so attackers found staying is Wales unattractive.

Romans built stone fortresses along the Welch coast, so I have to think that digs along the coast that look like permanent settlements would have to be from the Roman "occupation", though they would be upon older Welsh settlements. Get deeper into the heart of Wales, a defeated people's last stronghold, purposely inaccessible, built of wood becomes a "mythical" place pretty quickly.

41 posted on 08/15/2006 3:46:37 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: GoLightly
Actually the Goths were already Christian before Charlemagne. Arian Christian but Christian none the less!
For example Christian Goths with Aetius one the last great Western Roman commanders against Attila. Also the Goths what defeated a Western Roman army at Adrianople were Christian, again Arian Christian. The Ostrogothic Kingdom in Attila which followed the battle of Adrianople was a Christian kingdom, again Arian Christian.
42 posted on 08/15/2006 3:58:36 PM PDT by Reily
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To: GoLightly

In Scotland there is a little castle on Loch Ness called Urquehart Castle. Nobody knows who built it or why. Certainly not a bunch of guys that drank beer and went fishing there years ago. Maybe it had another purpose. The rain in the summer there is about the same temp as the water temp. I skinny-dipped around there once and that is a very deep glacial lake. Cute little red heads live around there that like to fish. Inverness has a nice restaurant that serves steamed or fried fish. Dunvegan is on the Isle of Skye and it's sort of like Kansas. Nice people there.


44 posted on 08/15/2006 5:20:56 PM PDT by BobS
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