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Muslims face extra checks in new travel crackdown
London Times ^ | 8/15/2006 | Ben Webster

Posted on 08/14/2006 6:06:47 PM PDT by Agent Smith

The Times August 15, 2006

Muslims face extra checks in new travel crackdown By Ben Webster, Transport Correspondent

THE Government is discussing with airport operators plans to introduce a screening system that allows security staff to focus on those passengers who pose the greatest risk.

The passenger-profiling technique involves selecting people who are behaving suspiciously, have an unusual travel pattern or, most controversially, have a certain ethnic or religious background.

The system would be much more sophisticated than simply picking out young men of Asian appearance. But it would cause outrage in the Muslim community because its members would be far more likely to be selected for extra checks.

Officials at the Department for Transport (DfT) have discussed the practicalities of introducing such a system with airport operators, including BAA. They believe that it would be more effective at identifying potential terrorists than the existing random searches.

They also say that it would greatly reduce queues at secur-ity gates, which caused lengthy delays at London airports yesterday for the fifth day running. Heathrow and Gatwick were worst affected, cancelling 69 and 27 flights respectively. BAA gave warning yesterday that the disruption would continue for the rest of the week.

Passengers are now allowed to take one small piece of hand luggage on board but security staff are still having to search 50 per cent of travellers. Airports have also been ordered to search twice as many hand luggage items as a week ago.

BAA was criticised yesterday for failing to commit itself to recruiting more security staff and for claiming that its existing 6,000 staff at seven airports would be able to handle the extra searches. Tony Douglas, the chief executive of Heathrow, said that X-ray screening of hand luggage would be much faster under the new rules on size and contents, leaving staff free to carry out more searches.

The new measures, which include a ban on taking any liquids through checkpoints, are expected to remain in place for months. A DfT source said it was difficult to see how the restrictions could be relaxed if terrorists now had the capabil-ity to make liquid bombs.

The DfT has been considering passenger profiling for a year but, until last week, the disadvantages were thought to outweigh the advantages. A senior aviation industry source said: “The DfT is ultra-sensitive about this and won’t say anything publicly because of political concerns about being accused of racial stereotyping.”

Three days before last week’s arrests, the highest-ranking Muslim police officer in Britain gave warning that profiling techniques based on physical appearance were already causing anger and mistrust among young Muslims. Tarique Ghaffur, an assistant commissioner of the Metropolitan Police, said: “We must think long and hard about the causal factors of anger and resentment.

“There is a very real danger that the counter-terrorism label is also being used by other law-enforcement agencies to the effect that there is a real risk of criminalising minority communities.”

Sir Rod Eddington, former chief executive of British Airways, criticised the random nature of security searches. He said that it was irrational to subject a 75-year-old grandmother to the same checks as a 25-year-old man who had just paid for his ticket with cash.

Philip Baum, an aviation security consultant, said that profiling should focus on ruling out people who obviously posed no risk rather than picking out Asian or Arabs.

A DfT spokesman refused to make any comment or answer any questions on profiling.

AIRPORT UPDATE

British Airways plans to cancel forty short-haul and four long-haul flights from Heathrow today as well as eleven domestic flights from Gatwick. Other airlines expect to operate near-normal schedules.

All airports will allow passengers to carry one small piece of hand luggage, but no liquids are allowed through the security search point other than prescribed medicines and baby food.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airlinesecurity; airports; gwot; jihadintheuk; londonairlineplot; muslims; profiling; security; terrorism; waronterror; wot
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To: B-Chan
By saying there is a difference between God and Jesus, you're saying that Jesus isn't God.

No, I am saying that there is a flaw in the doctrine saying God has a mother... Jesus has a Mother.

You didn't answer my question:

Was Jesus a man?

121 posted on 08/18/2006 4:26:30 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Mr. Franklin, what form of customes did you create in Tiajunna? A beeber, Madam, if you can stune it)
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To: B-Chan
Exodus 20:

1And God spake all these words, saying,

2I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

3Thou shalt have no other gods (goddesses...my insert)before me.

4Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. ...OOooo there go the graven images people worship in the church...

5Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; ...This also includes the doctrine of Mary WORSHIP...

6And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments

So, the Catholic Church is breaking the very first commandment that God had imposed on his people. The Same Commandments taught in Cathecism, hmmm... ever wonder why people think the Bible is contradictive? The Bible isn't contradictive, it's the teachings of the church that is contradictive to Gods Holy Word.

122 posted on 08/18/2006 4:42:56 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Mr. Franklin, what form of customes did you create in Tiajunna? A beeber, Madam, if you can stune it)
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To: Zavien Doombringer

Yes, Jesus is a man.

Is Jesus God? Yes or no?


123 posted on 08/18/2006 6:12:56 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: B-Chan
Appearantly, you do not read my responses, but I already knew you wouldn't.

One day the Holy Spirit will reveal the truth to you as He has with me... or Maybe He already tried you you rejected the truth.

Jesus is God in the earthly flesh - requiring a medium for birth. A earthly, fleshy mother. God made himself manifest into Mary. God was already in existance...Mary didn't produce God...

124 posted on 08/18/2006 3:07:27 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Mr. Franklin, what form of customes did you create in Tiajunna? A beeber, Madam, if you can stune it)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
Mary didn't produce God.

Then who did she produce?

125 posted on 08/18/2006 4:41:32 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: B-Chan
Then who did she produce? - Jesus - the man

If you fail to see the difference, then you are really blind.

126 posted on 08/18/2006 8:21:58 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Mr. Franklin, what form of customes did you create in Tiajunna? A beeber, Madam, if you can stune it)
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To: Agent Smith

Banning Muslims from flights would be a good first step.


127 posted on 08/18/2006 8:30:01 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: Zavien Doombringer

And if you claim that there is a difference between Jesus the man and Jesus our Lord and our God, then you are not a Christian.


128 posted on 08/18/2006 8:31:45 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: B-Chan
And if you claim that there is a difference between Jesus the man and Jesus our Lord and our God, then you are not a Christian.

My friend, I am so sad to see that you niether can see the error in your thinking and the blind acceptance of the doctrines of the Catholic Church, to the truth revealed in scriptures.

Jesus is a man, also, God, the Savior, the Prince of Peace, the Rose of Sharon, Our Lord, The Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the Earth, The Word, The Resurrectio and the Life.

Not once have I denied Jesus... I am saying that Mary isn't God's mother. She is Jesus's mother... Jesus the man's Mother. God, who made himself manifest in Jesus, doesn't need a mother, nor did he have one. Can a mortal give birth to an imortal? Jesus had to Die on the cross...Can you kill God?

129 posted on 08/19/2006 9:35:10 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Mr. Franklin, what form of customes did you create in Tiajunna? A beeber, Madam, if you can stune it)
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To: B-Chan
And if you claim that there is a difference between Jesus the man and Jesus our Lord and our God, then you are not a Christian.

Further more... Jesus - the man...showed humanly attrributes at Gethsamne when he was praying... He was under so much stress that he sweated blood from his pores. He pleaded to God to have "this cup pass from me, Never the less your will be done"... Jesus showed a bit of fear knowing what was ahead... Would God, show these attributes?

You need to read your Bible...

130 posted on 08/19/2006 9:42:28 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Mr. Franklin, what form of customes did you create in Tiajunna? A beeber, Madam, if you can stune it)
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To: Zavien Doombringer

Jesus was a man -- 100%.

He was also and at the same time 100% God.

If you disbelieve either statement, then you are not a Christian.

I'm not trying to insult you, nor even criticize you. It's simply a fact: to be a Christian, one MUST believe that Jesus Christ the man was also the Eternal Word, Second Person of the Godhead.

Mary is the mother of Jesus. Jesus is God. Therefore, Mary is the Mother of God. To believe otherwise is to deny Jesus' humanity or His divinity.


131 posted on 08/19/2006 11:17:33 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: B-Chan
As I have stated - I am a Bible Believing Christian - I believe in Jesus Christ the only Son of God, I believe in the Virgin Birth, I believe in the resurrection, and I believe that Jesus now sits at Gods right hand. -

I believe in the divine appointment of Mary, but to believe that God has a mother is to believe that there is a God and Goddess before our God... It isn't the case, and that is blasphemy. "Thou shall not have any gods (or goddesses) before me..." EXODUS 20.

I know your argument, I once had the same view as you until the Holy Spirit revealed the truth. Until the Holy Spirit reveals it to you...shalom.

This is the end of this discussion.

132 posted on 08/19/2006 1:34:03 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Mr. Franklin, what form of customes did you create in Tiajunna? A beeber, Madam, if you can stune it)
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