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Explosive Gel Was to Be Concealed in Sports Drink
ABC News. com ^ | 8/10/2006 | Richard Esposito

Posted on 08/10/2006 11:27:23 AM PDT by Sleeping Freeper

The suspected terror plotters arrested in Britain had planned to conceal their liquid or gel explosives inside a modified sports beverage drink container and trigger the device with the flash from a disposable camera.

ABC News has learned exclusively that the plotters planned to leave the top of the bottle sealed and filled with the original beverage but add a false bottom, filled with a liquid or gel explosive.

This, they thought, would ensure that they would be able to pass through security -- even if they were asked to unseal and drink the beverage.

The flash in a disposable camera has enough electrical power, they apparently believed, to set off the homemade explosive.

There are any number of homemade or modified commercial liquids that would have made effective explosives, with enough energy to damage or destroy a plane.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaedastrategy; crushislam; drinkmilk; explosives; foiled; islam; islamisevil; londonairlineplot; muslims; terrorists; trop
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To: Williams
I said all carry on items locked away, that includes cell phones. That includes everything. But it is possible to have a timer, etc. So then just eliminate carry ons altogether.

Chechen women were suspected of hiding explosives IN their private parts when they took down a couple of Russian jets a couple years ago. We can do full body cavity searches, too. I mean, what's the answer except to stop flying?

Frankly, if all they need is a bottle of Gatorade and a timer, I'm absolutely stunned that they would even bother with airports when there are subway systems and railways throughout America packed with riders and zero security. But then it occured to me that taking down planes would put a huge dent in our economic lifestyle too...

141 posted on 08/10/2006 12:39:42 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: prairiebreeze
If they complain, hand them a dollar show them the door.

Or, we could just take a harder look at young muslim males and let the businessmen, families, and grandmas and grandpas keep their coffee and gatorade.

Here we go again...a little more freedom taken away in the name of political correctness.

142 posted on 08/10/2006 12:40:04 PM PDT by dl5192
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To: Sleeping Freeper

Thanks to these idiots I am now going to have to drink my own breastmilk before I get to go to Disneyworld. Either that or try to nurse on a crowded plane.


143 posted on 08/10/2006 12:41:39 PM PDT by sportutegrl (A person is a person, no matter how small. (Dr. Seuss))
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To: 300magnum
I just checked the date 8/10 on Wikipedia

8.10 wasn't their date. My bet is that their date was 8.22 , as Iran's answer to the world.

144 posted on 08/10/2006 12:43:17 PM PDT by SampleMan
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To: Howlin

Thanks-


145 posted on 08/10/2006 12:44:08 PM PDT by xjcsa (The internet is not a truck. It's a series of tubes.)
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To: Paradox
Simple solution, assuming its a 20oz bottle, simply take all the drinks away from passengers. If they complain, hand them a dollar.

A dollar? When was the last time you bought anything at the aiport, 1972?

146 posted on 08/10/2006 12:45:38 PM PDT by SampleMan
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To: Paradox
Simple solution, assuming its a 20oz bottle, simply take all the drinks away from passengers

Then the airlines can start charging $5 for a 20oz bottle once you are on the plane. ;)

147 posted on 08/10/2006 12:46:09 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: TheDon
One problem, a remote trigger, such as a cell phone, can be used to detonate an explosive in the luggage or overhead compartments.

Yeah, but checked luggage is screened for explosives pretty thoroughly; nitroglycerine *does* show up on most of those scans.

148 posted on 08/10/2006 12:46:18 PM PDT by xjcsa (The internet is not a truck. It's a series of tubes.)
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To: Republican Red
I'm sure explosive experts already know this information but there must be a nutjob or two that just had a light bulb go off.

Anyone that cares to know does know. It is not like this is privileged or hard-to-find information. Being hush-hush about it has approximately zero benefit. Hell, we knew all these things as kids in the pre-Internet days, and these terrorists have more motivation than we ever did.

I would actually argue that we are better off if everyone understands the reality of the situation rather than assuming their fantasies about what can or cannot be done have any basis in the real world. The bottom line is that there really is no practical way of making air travel immune to terrorism, and never has been. People may or may not be under delusions to the contrary, but this is the world we have always lived in.

149 posted on 08/10/2006 12:46:36 PM PDT by tortoise
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To: f zero

Dare I even ask WHY you did that?


150 posted on 08/10/2006 12:47:06 PM PDT by Howlin (Pres.Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!~~Zook)
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To: wyattearp
>Ban Arabs from planes. Period.

That would cost airlines
money. Probably a lot.
Not gonna happen.

151 posted on 08/10/2006 12:48:02 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

Flight Level 800? Where are you descending from, orbit?


152 posted on 08/10/2006 12:48:12 PM PDT by SampleMan
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To: Howlin

Could not find anything about the specific airport(s), and the prosecutor would not say whether it was past or future flights, or anything about departure or destination points.

It was passenger and security info though.


153 posted on 08/10/2006 12:49:28 PM PDT by eyespysomething (There is no such thing as global warming. Chuck Norris was cold, so he turned the sun up.)
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To: Williams
"... 2 No more luggage on board. Ship it separately via ground or air....."

We already have companies that provide express baggage services. Its a somewhat pricey white-glove service providing door-to-door baggage delivery service in many U.S. cities and some international locations. A courrier picks up your bags at your home or office, transports it to the airport, walks it through security then ships it as cargo. Another courrier picks it up at the destination and delivers it to your hotel, home, office, etc.

154 posted on 08/10/2006 12:49:42 PM PDT by Darlin' ((,,,, ? OMG ! I've lost another tagline ?))
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To: duckbutt

I don't know why the flight attendants can't just give out chilled plastic bottles of your favorite beverage - pop, juice, water, whatever - instead of all those damned tiny little plastic cups with ice and whatnot. I usually take a bottle of Diet Pepsi on the flight with me, just because I'm used to drinking more of it than they hand out, and also because they usually have Diet Coke rather than Pepsi.

No overnight case. No electronics (ie CD player or iPod) for entertainment. No outside beverages. Gotta check all your expensive gadgets that you want on the trip in your luggage that they can open, inspect, and steal from at will. Yeah, flying just keeps getting more and more enjoyable. Ah, it always sucked anyway, it's just gotten MORE unpleasant now.


155 posted on 08/10/2006 12:50:19 PM PDT by -YYZ-
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To: theFIRMbss
That would cost airlines money. Probably a lot.

Allowing them on board almost bankrupted them last time. Sounds like time for a cost-benefit analysis.

156 posted on 08/10/2006 12:50:56 PM PDT by wyattearp (Study! Study! Study! Or BONK, BONK, on the head!)
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To: theFIRMbss; wyattearp
Ban Arabs from planes. Period.

That would cost airlines money. Probably a lot. Not gonna happen.

There's also the fact that Iranians aren't Arabs. Not sure how you go about the mechanics of banning the *real* risk group: Muslims.

157 posted on 08/10/2006 12:52:00 PM PDT by xjcsa (The internet is not a truck. It's a series of tubes.)
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To: 300magnum

Hmmmmmmm


158 posted on 08/10/2006 12:52:47 PM PDT by Chili Girl
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To: Williams
Not so far fetched. Maybe eliminate all carry on items, period.

Worse than useless. For a number of types of businesses and organizations, carry-on is required for some items.

159 posted on 08/10/2006 12:53:28 PM PDT by tortoise
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To: Sleeping Freeper

So my question to the "anti-Iraq-war" crowd...Does a explosive gel on an airline classify as a Weapon of Mass Destruction? If so, did Iraq have that capability?

Just asking.


160 posted on 08/10/2006 12:53:56 PM PDT by ScubieNuc
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