[DoughtyOne]

Pat, dadgumit, you are so out of your mind on this subject.

I've seen the videos. You've seen the videos. The Hezbollah have seen the videos. What part of self-defense do you not understand?

If a criminal was shooting at Shelly from behind a neighbor's house, would just curl up on the couch and let them? I'm thinking you'd probably place a few rounds at the corner where that feller stood. And if one round accidently hit a neighbor, God forbid, I sure as hell wouldn't hold you accountable for trying to defend you family.

Pull your head out and smell the coffee beans bud. Just damn...

[woofie]

That does it, Im gonna send Pat a bagel

[marron]

He insists on conflating Lebanon with Hezbollah.

If Lebanon is Hezbollah, then Lebanon is complicit or guilty of Hezbollah's attacks on Israel. Remember, Hezbollah has been rocketing Israel for years. Every Hezbollah attack is an attack on civilians. Does this need to be repeated? Every Hezbollah attack is an attack on civilians. This recent attack was one more; combined with the murder and capture of Israeli soldiers, combined with almost identical attacks by Hamas, also aimed at civilians, it was the final straw.

Lebanon had the responsibility to disarm Hezbollah. Of course, that is difficult since Hezbollah is Lebanon, not only because Buchanan says so, but because Hezbollah is a significant part of the Lebanese government.

If Hezbollah is outside Lebanese government control, as they have always claimed, then Israel is liberating Lebanon. The Lebanese can't play it both ways.

In any case, the building in Qana was the site of repeated missile launches. Who would fill such a building with children? This is grotesque. The people who did that bear "moral culpability" for the death of those children. Israeli gunners can't know the area around the missile launchers has been filled with kids; the people who put them there, and put the launchers there, they did know.

[Jameison]

" though Hezbollah is firing unguided rockets, while Israel is using precision-guided munitions."

Ummm.......... Pat, big difference. Hizbullah go to great trouble to fire missiles from buildings with the greatest number of civilians they can find (eg in Quana), while the Israelis go to great trouble to make sure they don't fire any missiles close to peolpe's homes.
It does affect the number of civilians that die in any conflict you know.

[EternalHope]

Although they both rank somewhere below pond scum, I actually think Pat is lower than John Kerry.

Pat Buchanan has redefined "low".

[PackerBoy]

Pat Buchanan playing the race card. Now I have seen everything.

[Rembrandt_fan]

Buchanan wrote, "Now, 87 percent of Lebanese back Hezbollah, and the entire Arab and Islamic world, Shia and Sunni alike, is rallying behind Nasrallah."

As if the Arab and Islamic world hasn't been supporting Hezbollah, directly or indirectly, since its inception. Arab leaders were annoyed by the timing of Hezbollah's attack, not the attack itself. No doubt the leaders of the Arab street wanted consultation by Syria and its master, Iran, before putting the Hebollah pawn into play.

And what are those deliberately targeted Israeli civilians if not innocent? You won't hear Buchanan complain about their deaths. Why? Because Buchanan is a loathsome, despicable, antisemitic demagogue, with no credibility whatsoever. Calling him conservative, paleo- or otherwise, dishonors all conservatives.

[aShepard]

Uh?

Pat, define a Hezbolla soldier? Is he the one in the neighborhood that's not wearing a uniform??

Pat define a civilian? Are they the ones that are placed in apartments above and below the stash of weapons, that are not wearing a uniform??

Now, in the attack in question, why did so many women and children die in the Isreal midnight attack, but there were so totally few men who were killed sleeping with their families ??

???Couldn't be a setup, could it????

[aShepard]

Uh?

Pat, define a Hezbolla soldier? Is he the one in the neighborhood that's not wearing a uniform??

Pat define a civilian? Are they the ones that are placed in apartments above and below the stash of weapons, that are not wearing a uniform??

Now, in the attack in question, why did so many women and children die in the Isreal midnight attack, but there were so totally few men who were killed sleeping with their families ??

???Couldn't be a setup, could it????

[KingofQue]

Hate to tell them that Lebanon has been on Hezbollah's side for a long time.

[Richard Axtell]

Pat has jumped off the right side of the pool into the deep end, and I for one do not feel disposed to toss him the life preserver. Good bye, Pat.

[Rosemont]

Great post Ward Churchillbuff. You know the truth. Everyone who has posted on this board except the people that worhsip Pat are a bunch of Neo-Cons! Pat is the greatest and he, along with Chris Matthews and MSDNC, know who the True Conservatives are!

[Redleg Duke]

Buchanan, don't you realize how totally irrelevant you have become?

[evangmlw]

"now, 87 percent of Lebanese back Hezbollah"

Dear Mr. Puke-Channan:

They probably supported Hezballah before the attack; hence, they are not innocent. When the majority of a nation support a terrorists group and allow them to operate freely on their soil --- they forfeit their innocence. They are not innocent and if the children suffer, it is the supporters of Hezballah who are at fault, not Israel who is defending its citizens. Blind are definitely leading the blind in this world. They should send a delegation to the UN and ask the UN to send in a multi-national force to root Hezballah out if they do not want Israel to do it. The people of Lebanon will not, because they are as guilty as Hezballah by their support of the terrorist group.

[PajamaTruthMafia]

Let go of the hatred Pat and open your eyes and see the true enemy. Jews didn't kill the Marines in Beirut. They didn't take hostages in Tehran. They didn't take hostages in Lebanon and kill 2 of them. The didn't kill a Navy diver on a hijacked plane. They didn't blow up a truck in the basement of the WTC or shoot CIA agents at the gate. They didn't blow up the Kobar towers killing US Airmen. They didn't bomb the USS Cole. They didn't bomb the African Embassies. They didn't bomb the trains in Spain or India. They didn't bomb the trains and buses in London and they didn't fly jets full of people into the Twin Towers and Pentagon. They don't send their children into cafes to detonate bombs among the patrons. No Pat, the Jews have not killed thousands of Americans in the most cowardly fashions imaginable. Please Pat, put away your hatred and open your eyes.

[facedown]

More drivel from a pathetic loser.

[GodGunsGuts]

==60th anniversary of the terror attack on the King David Hotel by Menachem Begin's Irgun, an attack that killed 92 people, among them British nurses.

The attack on the King David Hotel was not a terror attack. Read Menachem Begin's "The Revolt." King David Hotel was the administrative headquarters for the British Military. The British, please recall, were turning ships full of Jews fleeing Hitlers gas chambers and sending them back to be murdered by the Nazis (among other things). The Irgun fought against the British with a tiny band of fighters against overwhelming odds. When the Irgun blew the British military headquarters at King David, they called ahead and warned them that the building was about to blow. They even called neighboring buildings and warned them to stay away from glass windows. A British colonel basically declared that he was not going to take any orders from a Jews and barred the doors and held the occupants inside against their will at gunpoint. The bomb finally went off and the people inside payed the consequences of that stupid officers decision.

This was one of the most shameful chapters in British history, and Pat Buchanan is an idiot (at best!) for bringing it up in this context--GGG

[Liberty Valance]

[Polybius]

......a preconceived military plan to destroy Lebanon

It is the job of military professionals to have "a preconceived military plan". In the 1930's, the U.S. had a "a preconceived military plan" to wage war against Canada if that ever became a necessity.

Israel's "preconceived military plan" was to wage war against Hezbollah who just happened to have a free pass from the so-called "sovereign" government of Lebanon to use southern Lebanon as a rocket fire-base to attack Israel.

For Buchanan to characterize Israel's response to blatant acts of war as "a preconceived military plan to destroy Lebanon" merely demonstrates that he is nothing more than a demagogue.

[WOSG]

Looks like a cut-n-paste job from a Palie spokesman or Noam Chomsky... or at least channelling Al Jazeera ...

"the collective punishment of a people and nation"

Gimme a break.
How come even smart *Arabs* can figure out what Pat B. cannot??? That its Hezzies deliberate use of human shields that is causing this needless suffering:

http://www.bigpharaoh.com/2006/07/30/i-apologize/

sigh, how far pat's fallen.