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7/30 Middle East Live Thread
7/29 Middle East Live Thread ^ | 7/30/06 | BurbankKarl

Posted on 07/29/2006 10:30:17 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

Israeli combat soldiers walk along the Israeli northern border with Lebanon. US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is pursuing a new round of Middle East diplomacy as the Lebanon conflict moved into its 19th day, with Israel and Hezbollah exchanging firepower and threats in defiance of international moves toward a ceasefire


TOPICS: Breaking News; Israel
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; gwot; hizballah; israel; qana
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To: Miss Marple

If Iran planned this, batten down the hatches, because it's all about to hit the fan.


141 posted on 07/30/2006 2:54:25 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: janetjanet998
Yes it was planned ..so was the bombing of the shelter....they are related

Are you sure you want to speculate in such a tinfoil hatted manner at this point?

Are you suggesting that it wasn't an Israeli jet that destroyed the shelter, but a Hezzbollah conspiracy?

I just don't want to come off as those that believe the WTC was a government planned event...that's all.

142 posted on 07/30/2006 2:55:04 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: jeffers

I, too, believe every move of this is orchestrated.


143 posted on 07/30/2006 2:56:05 AM PDT by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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To: DCPatriot

no..hezbollah knew that was a "bomb" shelter so they launched rockets from that area knowing it would be hit


144 posted on 07/30/2006 2:57:47 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: jeffers

12:53 Qassam rocket hits Sderot industrial zone factory, causing injuries, damage (Haaretz)


145 posted on 07/30/2006 2:58:28 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: DCPatriot

Tin foil hat?

If you have any data what-so-ever that Hezbollah did not, would not, or could not have planed this, possibly including the bombing itself, possibly just the riot, then by all means, present it.

Otherwise I believe discussion of this possibility to valuable and productive.


146 posted on 07/30/2006 2:59:30 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: janetjanet998

Similar to the UN outpost the other day.


147 posted on 07/30/2006 2:59:52 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: jeffers

"A senior IDF officer said the IDF "has been bombing Kafr Kana for three days already... Most civilians have left already, and most of those who remain are Hizbullah rocket launching cells. We have bombed ten launchers in the city, and dozens more in the vicinity. Today, we attacked a building towards which the terrorists ran; we would not have done so had we seen civilians there."

Another official said, "The IDF warned the civilians to leave, and it was serious about it. I don't like to see innocent people killed, but if there have to be innocent civilians killed, I would rather they be in southern Lebanon than in Haifa."

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=108711


148 posted on 07/30/2006 3:04:30 AM PDT by conservativepoet
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To: jeffers
Please don't misconstrue my tinfoil hat reference.

I don't put anything past Hezbollah/Iran.

My point was that the shelter bombing appears similar to the UNIFIL peacekeeper outpost that say 4 KIA the other day...where collateral damage happens.

I enjoy your theories and posts very much.

149 posted on 07/30/2006 3:04:33 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: DCPatriot

fox live report more incoming rockets last few minutes

12:56 7 rockets land in Kiryat Shmona, one hits building; no injuries reported (Haaretz


150 posted on 07/30/2006 3:05:42 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: janetjanet998

13:03 1 person lightly hurt, another treated for shock after Qassam strike in Sderot (Haaretz)


151 posted on 07/30/2006 3:06:22 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: janetjanet998
It occurs to me that perhaps David Lee Miller was actually a target. He said the rockets landed where they were reporting earlier.
152 posted on 07/30/2006 3:11:09 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: DCPatriot

No misconstruction here, you raised a valuable point. Stating definitively that Hezbollah planned all this, or that it's a scam, would indeed be the same as the nutjobs claiming that Mossad popped the WTC.

Avoiding discussion of the possibility all toghther, however, ignores Hezbollah behavior in general, and the lessons learned after accurate investigation into the "Jenin massacre" hoax.

We need to look for the middle ground, and so far, it appears that we are finding it.

Hezbollah is certainly guilty of placing military equipment and personnel in civilian areas, just like the UN outpost the other day.

Beyond that, I want to ascertain just how much of a scam is being played out here, and how far up the food chain the planning for this series of events went.

If Tehran was involved, the implications are significant.


153 posted on 07/30/2006 3:15:31 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: jveritas

Bingo.


154 posted on 07/30/2006 3:16:53 AM PDT by hershey
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To: jveritas

After dynamiting and leveling Hezbollah strongholds, Israel should sow the ground with salt.


155 posted on 07/30/2006 3:18:21 AM PDT by hershey
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To: BurbankKarl

Good morning, thanks for the ping


156 posted on 07/30/2006 3:20:22 AM PDT by stopem (God Bless the U.S.A the Troops who protect her, and their Commander In Chief !)
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To: stopem

JP Updates:



Hizbullah vows to revenge Qana attack
[ 30/07 13:02 - ISRAEL ]
One moderately wounded by Kassam near Sderot
[ 30/07 12:57 updated 13:04 - ISRAEL ]
Rice regrets loss of innocent lives in Lebanon
[ 30/07 12:46 - INTERNATIONAL ]
Abdullah decries Israel's 'criminal aggression'
[ 30/07 12:40 - MIDDLE EAST ]
Terror attack foiled in central area
[ 30/07 12:37 - ISRAEL ]
Qana strike sparks violent protest in Beirut
[ 30/07 12:36 - MIDDLE EAST ]
Eldad: Har Dov withdrawal would be humiliating
[ 30/07 11:44 updated 12:48 - ISRAEL ]
Saniora wants immediate, unconditional cease fire
[ 30/07 11:07 - ISRAEL ]
40 rockets land in the North on Sunday morning
[ 30/07 11:04 - ISRAEL ]
Iran threatens to reject incentives package
[ 30/07 10:58 - IRAN ]
Olmert: Israel not in a hurry for cease-fire
[ 30/07 10:51 updated 11:10 - ISRAEL ]
Israel: Cease-fire won't set fate of Sheba Farms
[ 30/07 09:25 updated 10:49 - ISRAEL ]
Rockets hit Haifa, Acre, Nahariya; none wounded
[ 30/07 08:50 - ISRAEL ]
Jenin: Explosive hurled at IDF; none wounded
[ 30/07 08:45 - ISRAEL ]
Lebanese: Dozens killed in IAF strike on Qana
[ 30/07 08:40 updated 08:40 - ISRAEL ]
IDF fires at Hizbullah operatives in s. Lebanon
[ 30/07 08:11 - ISRAEL ]
IDF arrests 5 Tanzim fugitives in Kalkilya
[ 30/07 08:01 - ISRAEL ]
Volley of rockets hits Kiryat Shmona; none wounded
[ 30/07 07:54 updated 08:36 - ISRAEL ]


157 posted on 07/30/2006 3:21:16 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: hershey
Delenda est Hezbollah.
158 posted on 07/30/2006 3:21:41 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Arutz Sheva Update:

13:15 Jul-30-06
Female Moderately Injured in Kassam Rocket Attack
13:03 Jul-30-06
Katyushas Land in Kiryat Shmona
13:01 Jul-30-06
Kassam Rocket Hits Shar HaNegev Industrial Zone
12:59 Jul-30-06
Son of IDF Deputy Commander Volunteers for Duty in Lebanon
12:37 Jul-30-06
Captive Soldier Shalit May be Alive and Well, in Gaza
12:15 Jul-30-06
Rice Met Senior Officials on Sunday Morning
12:05 Jul-30-06
Over 80 Rockets Fired into Israel Sunday Morning
11:54 Jul-30-06
Olmert: We Are Not Rushing to a Ceasefire
11:51 Jul-30-06
Lebanon Seeking to Escalate Qana Incident
11:35 Jul-30-06
IDF Spokesperson’s Office on Qana Incident
11:22 Jul-30-06
Funeral Arrangement for Fallen IDF Soldier
11:11 Jul-30-06
Sirens Continue to Sound in Northern Israel
11:06 Jul-30-06
Rice Cancels Planned Visit to Beirut
11:05 Jul-30-06
Qana was Targeted Due to Katyusha Launches
11:04 Jul-30-06
Rocket Attack Reported in Maalot
10:52 Jul-30-06
Would-be Bomber in Custody – Alert Lowered
10:50 Jul-30-06
Terrorists Killed in Sunday AM Fighting
10:33 Jul-30-06
Hizbullah’s Missile Threat Continues
10:19 Jul-30-06
CNN: Over 65 Dead in Qana Aerial Assault
10:17 Jul-30-06
Police: Assault Against Arab MK Not a Hate Crime
10:12 Jul-30-06
Alert Along Seamline to Apprehend Suicide Bomber
10:10 Jul-30-06
IDF Soldier Moderately Wounded in Lebanon Fighting
10:00 Jul-30-06
Soldiers Uninjured in Jenin Attacks
09:44 Jul-30-06
Tisha B’Av Prayer at NYC’s Isaiah Wall
09:24 Jul-30-06
IDF Withdraws From the Hizbullah Capital
09:21 Jul-30-06
Shrapnel Injuries Reported in Akko Attack
09:12 Jul-30-06
Hysteria Victims Reported in Akko Rocket Attack
09:11 Jul-30-06
Patriot Battery in the Netanya Area
08:58 Jul-30-06
Report: 40 Casualties Reported in Lebanon
08:51 Jul-30-06
24 Rockets Strike Kiryat Shmona Area
08:33 Jul-30-06


159 posted on 07/30/2006 3:22:38 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: ScaniaBoy

Anything but total victory for Israel increases the likelihood of Hezbollah sleeper cell attacks in the US. Israel is the appetizer. The US is the entree.


160 posted on 07/30/2006 3:23:48 AM PDT by hershey
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