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The McCains and War: Like Father, Like Son
TIME Magazine ^ | July 29, 2006 | MASSIMO CALABRESI

Posted on 07/29/2006 11:54:19 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative

This September, Senator John McCain's youngest son, Jimmy, 18, will report to a U.S. Marine Corps depot near Camp Pendleton in San Diego. After three months of boot camp and a month of specialized training, he will be ready to deploy. Depending on the unit he joins, he could be in Iraq as early as this time next year, and his chances of seeing combat at some point are high. Of the 178,000 active-duty Marines in the world, some 80,000 have seen a tour in Iraq or Afghanistan, and there are 25,000 bearing the brunt of some of the worst fighting in Iraq now. About 6,000 Marines have been wounded there, and about 650 have been killed. "I'm obviously very proud of my son," says the elder McCain, "but also understandably a little nervous."

At 70 years old, McCain might have thought his days of living in the shadow of family military men were behind him. His grandfather, Admiral John S. McCain Sr., served in the Pacific in WW II and was present at the Japanese surrender aboard the U.S.S. Missouri. His father, Admiral John S. McCain Jr., commanded U.S. forces in the Pacific during Vietnam, when the young McCain was a prisoner of war in Hanoi. But if the old men cast long shadows, McCain is about to learn that the young ones can too.

Jimmy McCain's deployment will affect more than his family. His father is a leading contender for the White House in 2008. If Jimmy deploys to combat, it appears McCain will join F.D.R. to become one of the very few American presidential candidates ever to have had a son at war. And even the prospect of Jimmy's service will shade the race. Iraq is the most important strategic and political issue facing the U.S. Many Democrats are calling for troop withdrawal to begin immediately, and the Bush Administration is struggling to reduce troop strength by the end of the year. McCain, for his part, is the leading voice calling for increasing the number of U.S. troops there.

In the way that happens more frequently in fiction than in life, a McCain family drama is replaying itself here. As a prisoner of war, Senator McCain voluntarily declined an offer of early release by his Vietnamese captors, extending his stay at the Hanoi Hilton by almost four years and nine months. During that time, his father continued to approve air strikes against Hanoi, knowing his son was there. Now comes Jimmy McCain, putting himself in the line of fire even as his father calls for more troops to be sent to war.

Named after McCain's father-in-law, James Hensley, Jimmy is the lively, happy-go-lucky member of the clan, friends say. During the 2000 campaign, a Boston Globe reporter spotted Jimmy, then 11, chasing his older brother Jack around the house calling him a "pork-barrel spender" — a deep cut in the McCain home. During the same year, when McCain was on the road in New Hampshire, the candidate proudly read aloud from a school report on General George S. Patton by Jimmy that he had faxed to him: "The Tanks Will Roll On."

McCain's personal influences on Jimmy appear to have outweighed the privileges that came with being his son. McCain is rock-star famous, and his wife Cindy came to the marriage with money as the daughter of a Budweiser distributor. While others have signed up for duty — the sons of both Senator Christopher Bond of Missouri and Tim Johnson of South Dakota have served combat missions in Iraq — it is nonetheless unusual for children of that background to enlist. By comparison, a recent study by Public Citizen's Congress Watch found at least 32 examples of congressional family members who were lobbyists.

Jimmy knows the risks of war from his father's descriptions of battle, imprisonment and torture in Vietnam. The Senator's book, Faith of My Fathers, dryly relates the experience of "small pieces of hot shrapnel" tearing "into my legs and chest," and of how, in solitary confinement, "the first few weeks are the hardest," as "the onset of despair is immediate" and "formidable." Not exactly a prime recruiting tool for your kids. Still, McCain the elder is phlegmatic. "I don't think there's anything unusual about Jimmy," he says, "There are, thank God, lots of young men and women like him."

In some ways, though, Jimmy is breaking with tradition, rather than following it. His brother Jack, now 20, has just finished his plebe year at the U.S. Naval Academy in Annapolis, where his father, grandfather and great-grandfather went before him. And McCain, the Naval aviator and keen interservice competitor, has been known to crack more than a few jokes at the Marines expense. McCain says he doesn't read much into Jimmy's decision. "I know that he's aware of his family's service background," he says, "But I think the main motivator was, he had friends who were in the Marine Corps, and he'd known Marines, and he'd read about them, and he just wanted to join up."

McCain says his son's service won't change his position on the war; he claims it won't even affect how he feels about it. "Like every parent who has a son or daughter serving that way, you will have great concern, but you'll also have great pride," McCain says. But it will be hard to ignore. If Republicans retain control of the Senate after November's midterm elections, McCain is due to ascend to the chairmanship of the Armed Services Committee in January, a position he has long aimed for. There he will have day-to-day responsibility for the oversight of the war.

And then there's 2008. McCain already has strong national-security credentials. His son's service only strengthens his position. It will neutralize the assertions of the left that Republicans are "chicken hawks," pursuing the war for ideological reasons without any connection to the pain of it. And it will likely have a broader affect on McCain's credibility. Critics have accused McCain of pandering to the right in order to solidify his front-runner status, but the power of that argument is diminished if McCain is seen steadfastly supporting a war even as it endangers his youngest son.

More than anything else, though, the country may find itself viewing Iraq through McCain's eyes as it follows his son's progress. And nothing is more powerful for a candidate than sympathy. Nothing, too, is more irritating to McCain: he seems annoyed by the interest in his son's enlistment. In mid-June, he requested that Time not run this story and only relented when it appeared other organizations might break the news. In response to most of the heavier questions about Jimmy's motivation and the influence he may have felt from his family, McCain doesn't want to play. "He's an 18-year-old kid," McCain says, and he no doubt remembers what that means. The Senator was such a hell-raiser as a plebe and a pilot that he was nearly forced out of the academy.

Whatever Jimmy's enrollment says about him, his father or the country, candidate McCain is letting it speak for itself, for the most part. Often the clan gathers for a popular July 4 barbeque at McCain's cabin in Arizona. But this year, instead, McCain canceled the picnic, and the Senator, his wife Cindy and Jimmy went to the Quinault Indian reservation in Washington State. "We went fishing and hiking and enjoyed the rain forest there as well as the salmon fishing, although we didn't catch any salmon," he says. "Cindy and I were able to spend a weekend with him. And it was fine."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: grunts; iraq; leatherneck; marine; marines; mccain; mccain2008; military; usmc; vietnam
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1 posted on 07/29/2006 11:54:20 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative
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To: West Coast Conservative

You know, I don't think I would support McCain for President. And he is a RINO. But, I think that despite that, he's a fine man. And he's raised (and is raising) a fine family. And he is a patriotic and strong supporter of America and the free world.

So, despite my many disagreements with him on policy issues, I want to say G-d bless John McCain.

Now, watch me get flamed. ;)


2 posted on 07/29/2006 11:57:36 AM PDT by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: Salem

Hey Salem, McCain's son is joining the Marines and going to war. Better alert some of the FReeper Marines and Marine veterans, to give him the ol' virtual "Semper Fi".


3 posted on 07/29/2006 11:58:41 AM PDT by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Let's hope that this kid isn't captured by the enemy and tortured for six years so that as he grows older he'll be a completely sane and reasonable guy.
4 posted on 07/29/2006 11:59:05 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: Alexander Rubin
Can't say I disagree with anything you wrote. Considering the opportunities a senator's son could take advantage of because of his father's position, the fact that he will serve says something about both father and son.

I do wish he was a conservative though.

5 posted on 07/29/2006 12:01:16 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper (..it takes some pretty serious yodeling to..filibuster from a five star ski resort in the Swiss Alps)
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To: Alexander Rubin
So, despite my many disagreements with him on policy issues, I want to say G-d bless John McCain.

The closest I'm willing to come to praising McCain is to say that,IMO,he's one of the least repugnant democRATS in Congress today.

6 posted on 07/29/2006 12:01:20 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: Alexander Rubin
God speed to Jimmy McCain..

I won't flame you...:-)

7 posted on 07/29/2006 12:01:42 PM PDT by Dog
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To: Alexander Rubin

I went to college with McCain's oldest son (he is a former naval aviator who flew A-6 Intruders out of Virginia Beach), and while I have some political disagreements with his father, I must say the McCains are a fine, decent patriotic family. God bless all of them.


8 posted on 07/29/2006 12:07:45 PM PDT by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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To: big'ol_freeper; Gay State Conservative

I also truly wish he was a real conservative. But McCain was, and is, a patriot. And he is a sane and reasonable fellow, partisan rhetoric aside (and yes, I indulge in it too, lest someone here accuse me of vast hypocrisy :D ).

As big ol'_freeper said...he could easily weasel his son out of hard duty, or discourage him from joining. But he didn't. And he won't. And his son will serve, and I have no doubt, serve well.

McCain is a RINO. And he is not a true conservative. And he is sometimes a little wishy-washy on issues, and, IMHO, is a little too optimistic about a lot of things (like illegal immigration). But that is no reason to bash the man. Just because we as conservatives should not support him for President, does not mean that we should denigrate him utterly, or insult him.

He does what he thinks is right, and does his best, and is honest and committed to his principles (though they are different than mine) and his country. He works hard, and tries to compromise, and tries to be reasonable.

More people should be like him in America, and around the world. It would be a better place. Though, hopefully they would be more conservative.

Don't bash the man just because you don't like his poliitcs. That's why I dislike many Democrats and can respect many others. Ad hominem attacks get us nowhere. We want a vigorous intellectual debate, heated yes, but not empty partisan rhetoric. Find flaws with the issues, not the man.

And hopefully, the son turns into a conservative. ;) Jimmy McCain in 2040! ;)


9 posted on 07/29/2006 12:09:46 PM PDT by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
"Let's hope that this kid isn't captured by the enemy and tortured for six years so that as he grows older he'll be a completely sane and reasonable guy."

Amen to that.
One thing I can't accuse his dad of being, is either or reasonable.
10 posted on 07/29/2006 12:11:33 PM PDT by Jameison
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To: Alexander Rubin

Just saw you post after I posted mine and just had to smile.
It's like we are talking about 2 different men.


11 posted on 07/29/2006 12:13:10 PM PDT by Jameison
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To: Jameison

Correction:

Amen to that.
One thing I can't accuse his dad of being, is either sane or reasonable.


12 posted on 07/29/2006 12:14:08 PM PDT by Jameison
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To: big'ol_freeper
...the fact that he will serve says something about both father and son.

But is it the same thing I wonder....

13 posted on 07/29/2006 12:16:53 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Jameison

He's very sane. He's just overly optimistic. Foolish and sane are definitely not mutually exclusive.

And I mean reasonable in the sense of being capable of rational thought (admit it...you've agreed with him at least a few times :D ), and not being excessive or extreme (which is one of the things many of us criticize him for...If anything, he's TOO reasonable, and TOO willing to compromise, and TOO moderate).


14 posted on 07/29/2006 12:19:13 PM PDT by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: mewzilla

I think so. They were (or will be) both volunteers. They both could weasel out if they wanted to. Try to separate the politics and the men. If we can't...then we're a lot more screwed than we think we are.


15 posted on 07/29/2006 12:20:33 PM PDT by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
In the meantime, I know 3 families personally, and others through word-of-mouth by acquaintance, who are sending their sons to war.

McCain's son should not be used for political purpose..he is doing what any young patriot should..and many HAVE.

McCains son serving does not make McCain a better..uh, politician..panderer..I don't know.

I know this is not news when its my neighbors son...

16 posted on 07/29/2006 12:22:59 PM PDT by PattonFan (Not me, I don't believe in paying for the same real estate twice." George C. Scott , "Patton")
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To: Alexander Rubin
>>>>You know, I don't think I would support McCain for President.

If its a choice between the moderate-mavarick John McCain or the liberal Rudy Giuliani, I think many conservative folks will choose McCain.

17 posted on 07/29/2006 12:24:33 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't support amnesty and conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Reagan Man

Possibly. Rudy is fairly liberal, even for a RINO. I like him too, but I think he wouldn't make a great President. And he'd be bad on a lot of issues I care about.

Still, I hope we get a genuine conservative candidate, who gets elected.


18 posted on 07/29/2006 12:27:15 PM PDT by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: Reagan Man
" I think many conservative folks will choose McCain."

Nope.

"* Just last week, Gallup released a poll showing that four out of 10 Republicans consider "front-runner" McCain to be an "unacceptable" candidate. And he does worst with self-described conservatives, half of whom deem him unacceptable. But 73 percent of Republicans call Rudy "acceptable."


http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/rudy__the_front_runner_opedcolumnists_ryan_sager.htm

McCain is about as popular amongst conservatives as a hole in the head.
All those years of being a"maverick", pandering to the liberal media,the dastardly McCain/Fiengold, and pocking conservatives in the eye has paid of handsomely for McCain the snake... by earning him the contempt of conservatives.
19 posted on 07/29/2006 12:35:39 PM PDT by Jameison
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To: Reagan Man
McCain over Rudy any day of the week. Just compare voting records. McCain is actually better than he appears while Rudy is worse than he appears. The only 2 issues that McCain is really bad on are immigration and finance reform. I think it does say alot about him (good) when his son enlists.
20 posted on 07/29/2006 12:35:49 PM PDT by beagle9
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