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To: Skooz; Darkchylde
That makes no sense.

You said: Nothing, nothing, nothing in the article suggests the mother approached the store as a "playground." That is your invention.

I replied: She didn't have the child in a cart. He wandered at least 5 feet away. What was he doing, reading "War and Peace"?

If he wasn't playing, he must have been doing something constructive at the age of 3, right?

That is correct. However, that scenario has nothing to do with this case.

It has EVERYTHING to do with this case. What control did she have of WalMart?!

It is easy for a normal sized person to reach for something 5 feet away. Most people don't have to take a step. Some will have to take one step.

No ones arms are 5 ft long.

I am using facts and reason.

No you aren't.

If the mirror were secured.

Do you know for a fact, since you claim you're using them, that the mirror wasn't secured?

My kids were always under my control no matter their age. This Mom, tragically, did not have her kids under her control.

From my post 73: I'm assuming that most parents are smart enough to control their kids. When mine got too big for the carts, they were either in the basket or holding the pocket of my jeans. The MINUTE they let go I knew it and they were back by my side where they belonged. As they got older, when Hubby was along, he'd say, "where do your hands belong?". My boys put their hands in their pockets and stayed beside us.

I'm pinging one of my 3 Freeper kids to verify.

110 posted on 07/24/2006 8:27:41 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
If he wasn't playing, he must have been doing something constructive at the age of 3, right?

Most of us call that "tagging along with mom while she shops at WalMart."

It has EVERYTHING to do with this case. What control did she have of WalMart?!

Nope. You said: "It is NOT safe to let a child wander off in an environment that you have no control over."

The child did not "wonder off." He was FIVE FEET AWAY. That's why your make believe scenario has nothing to do with this case.

No ones arms are 5 ft long.

I didn't say they were. I said this: "It is easy for a normal sized person to reach for something 5 feet away. Most people don't have to take a step. Some will have to take one step."

Do you know for a fact, since you claim you're using them, that the mirror wasn't secured?

If a 3 year old can pull it over, then, no, it wasn't secured.

My kids were always under my control no matter their age.

Good for you. Mine are, as well.

This Mom, tragically, did not have her kids under her control.

Baseless assumption.

124 posted on 07/24/2006 8:34:58 AM PDT by Skooz (Chastity prays for me, piety sings...Modesty hides my thighs in her wings...)
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To: DJ MacWoW; Skooz; Darkchylde
If he wasn't playing, he must have been doing something constructive at the age of 3, right?

False Dichotomy: You are stating either he was reading war and piece or he was running around playing... Maybe, just maybe he was looking at a toy near the Mirror, maybe taking it off the shelf but not in a manner that is 'playing'.

What control did she have of WalMart?!

The question could be asked what control does walmart have over how well it secures heavy objects in its kids department

Fact is we don't know who's, if anyones, fault this it. Freak accidents happen, even to perfect parents like you be careful in what you boast because, Lord forbid, someday you or someone you love might need a compassionate friend after such an accident..

131 posted on 07/24/2006 8:39:40 AM PDT by N3WBI3 ("I can kill you with my brain" - River Tam)
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