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Child Killed By Falling Mirror At Wal-Mart
The Indy Channel ^ | 7-23-2006

Posted on 07/24/2006 6:12:21 AM PDT by Samwise

INDIANAPOLIS -- A 3-year-old boy was fatally injured when a floor-mounted mirror fell on him at an Indianapolis Wal-Mart.

Police said Christopher Antonio was apparently playing near the 5-foot-tall mirror in the children's section of the store Saturday evening when it fell at the store in the 3200 block of 86th Street.

The boy was with his 5-year-old sister and his mother. The mother told police she was about 5 feet away from her son when she heard a loud crash.

Police said it took two people to pull the mirror off the boy.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: child; itsallfunngamesuntil; killed; mirror; ningnpaso; peligro; storesarentplaygrnds; walmart
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To: Darkchylde

Ack!
I apologize,
I just re-read the thread and it was Westlander that said it.


341 posted on 07/24/2006 10:59:43 AM PDT by najida (The internet is for kids grown up-- Where else could you have 10,000 imaginary friends?)
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To: najida
There is nothing, nothing, nothing at all in the article that says the child was being disobedient or out of control or misbehaving. It simply states he was 5 feet away from his mother, playing.

Out of sight of Mom.

From the article: The mother told police she was about 5 feet away from her son when she heard a loud crash. Mom saw nothing.

as could I make about why you're no longer working in Pediatrics.

Excuse me? I taught Sunday School. I've never worked in pediatrics. And never said that I did.

And you say you won't make assumptions but then make THESE assumptions: You've got an agenda and you've got issues and they have nothing to do with the death of a child or the grief of a mother.

Holy cow lady. Does this mean you've taken me off your ping list?

342 posted on 07/24/2006 10:59:52 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: najida

Trying to keep track of all the posts is head-spinning. :-)


343 posted on 07/24/2006 11:01:24 AM PDT by Darkchylde (Don't try my brother's coffee!)
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To: new cruelty
The issues of the mirror and the tunnel panel are similar IF one contends that both the mirror and the panel were installed incorrectly.

All the article says is that it was a floor mirror.

344 posted on 07/24/2006 11:01:38 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: DManA

FR is full of these threads.

Somehow, somewhere, they make someone feel superior.

All they do is make me glad that my relatives who thought that way are either dead or out of state ;)


345 posted on 07/24/2006 11:02:44 AM PDT by najida (The internet is for kids grown up-- Where else could you have 10,000 imaginary friends?)
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To: najida
You keep using the word but I see nothing in the article where the mother told him not to do what he was doing.

That came from a post about the Mom not keeping the child from wandering 5 feet away. My kids weren't allowed to do that. When I had to defend keeping my kids by me, I said they were obedient. It escalated from there.

346 posted on 07/24/2006 11:04:46 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Let's get this straight. In order to guarantee seeing the child, the mom would have to NEVER take her eyes off of him. That could make for some intersting shopping. Preperation H instead of toothpaste, canned prunes instead of canned corn, etc.

Everybody here, and anyone who's been a parent, knows that things can happen in a millisecond - EVEN if the child is attached to your hip. You can't look at them every single second you're in public.

In unguarded moments, I might mention that horrible feeling of panic that sets in when your small child has gotten out of sight. Such a confession ALWAYS draws a "me, too, isn't it awful?" response. You are the first person I have EVER spoken to about this that apparently hasn't experienced this.

Times must be different. Funny thing is, when I was growing up (you seem to be about the age of my parents), my parents were MUCH less protective of my brothers and me than I am with my own children. No seat belts, M-80's, we could wander the yards of the neighborhood at will, waiting in the car while Mom shopped.

And this was the 70's, not the 50's. The funny thing is, i don't know who was the irregular one, you or my mom. Either way, no big deal. To each his own!

347 posted on 07/24/2006 11:05:57 AM PDT by Warren_Piece (Smart is easy. Good is hard.)
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To: voiceinthewind
When my kids were 3 yrs old they were each about 36 inches tall and weighed about 36 pounds.

It boggles my mind to think there would be a floor fixture in a department store, so heavy it needed TWO MEN to lift it off that baby's body, that could be so unstable as to fall on that baby, whether he touched it, pulled on it or whatever.

He was probably about 36 inches tall and probably weighed about 36 pounds.

I also remember my child looking into mirrors and playing with his reflection. I remember standing beside him and laughing and mugging with him when he would do it. I can so easily imagine my 3 yr old child playing 5 feet away (one arm's reach and one step) while I tried clothes on the 5 yr old.

This thread is a train wreck of self righteousness. Your compassion stands out. God Bless.

Now I am going to STOP reading these sad screeds.
348 posted on 07/24/2006 11:06:04 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: N3WBI3

Subscribe to The Pediatric Journal of Medicine. It's reality.


349 posted on 07/24/2006 11:06:32 AM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: DJ MacWoW

You are getting beat up over the distance between mom and the child. I have to agree with you.

Five feet in a grocery story (long straight aisles) is not far.

Ten feet (or even 20) in a public park or field isn't far because it's open and you can see what's going on and where the child is.

OTOH, five feet (or even 3) is far for a 3 year old when your view is obstructed in a crowded and/or cluttered uncontrolled environment.


350 posted on 07/24/2006 11:06:43 AM PDT by Badray (CFR my ass. There's not too much money in politics. There's too much money in government hands.)
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To: Skooz
Nothing in the article suggests that the child was "out of control."

The post you're quoting does not say the child was out of control. It says he was not in his mothers control. You can't control what you aren't looking at.

351 posted on 07/24/2006 11:07:00 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
All the article says is that it was a floor mirror.

The article states that it was a floor mounted mirror. "Mounted" generally implies that the mirror was installed by someone. That is was mounted- was it mounted correctly?

352 posted on 07/24/2006 11:07:45 AM PDT by new cruelty
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To: Samwise; All
July 2006- Girl dies after Sears mirror falls on her head... similar article here- Girl, 3, killed after mirror falls at Sears

June 2003- Mirror Falls Off Wall, Kills Child At Mall Clothing Store

353 posted on 07/24/2006 11:07:51 AM PDT by new cruelty
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To: DJ MacWoW

Yep, I'm taking you off the

'Those who get off on the grief of others by telling everyone what great parents they were and how perfect their parents were and if the whole world just raised their kids the way they raised their kids and they themselves were raised then no children would ever ever ever die in freak accidents.'

Ping list.

As for the Pedatrics thing, I mistook you for Westlander, I apologize.

As for the Mother having her eyes off the child, how long are we talking? The mirrors in my Walmart are close to the bedding section. So, she looks up, grabs a stack of towels to put in the cart and BAM! Little Joey is dead.

You have to look at what you're buying when you're shopping, otherwise, you come out with a cart full of nothing you went in for.


354 posted on 07/24/2006 11:08:01 AM PDT by najida (The internet is for kids grown up-- Where else could you have 10,000 imaginary friends?)
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To: Badray
Where did anyone suggest that she deserved to have her child die? Which post # was it? There was one that suggested that Walmart charge her for the cost of the mirror. Another stated society needed to be "taught a lesson". Give me a minute, and I'll post the #s.
355 posted on 07/24/2006 11:08:36 AM PDT by Warren_Piece (Smart is easy. Good is hard.)
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To: new cruelty

Exactly right. Playing near something and playing on something are two very different things.


356 posted on 07/24/2006 11:08:44 AM PDT by ShandaLear (Gringos Unite!!!)
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To: Warren_Piece
You seem to be of the opinion that smothering and hovering is the ONLY way to accomplish this. I would disagree.

I'm sorry that you think obedience and manners are smothering.

357 posted on 07/24/2006 11:09:21 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

OK,
Different types of parents,that's all.

The child may have been perfect, obedient little angel standing out of mom's way, like she asked, while she tried to wrestle a comforter from the shelf and into the cart.

It's so easy to see the other side of this story. Good kid, good Mom. Mirror fell.

The End.


358 posted on 07/24/2006 11:10:16 AM PDT by najida (The internet is for kids grown up-- Where else could you have 10,000 imaginary friends?)
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To: DJ MacWoW
You can't control what you aren't looking at.

Unless you have instilled obedience in your children, like your parents did with you and your siblings.

359 posted on 07/24/2006 11:11:27 AM PDT by new cruelty
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To: ShandaLear
How do you know that mother wasn't watching him?

Read the article!

From the ARTICLE: The mother told police she was about 5 feet away from her son when she heard a loud crash.

Where does it say she SAW anything?

Let's return to my original premise, he should have been in a cart.

360 posted on 07/24/2006 11:11:43 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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