[DJ MacWoW]

You seem to be of the opinion that smothering and hovering is the ONLY way to accomplish this. I would disagree.

I'm sorry that you think obedience and manners are smothering.

[Warren_Piece]

You didn't read the rest of what I said. making the kid be right next to you ALL the time is smothering and hovering.

My kids are well behaved, or so I'm told. They're also very self-suffiecient for 8 and 9 year olds. Time will tell whether this approach is a mistake.