It's a sin to fly, says church

The Sunday Times (UK) ^ | 7/23/2006 | Jonathan Leake

[HungarianGypsy]

Here we go again. Let's just go back to horse and buggy. These people will then complain about the smell.

[foreverfree]

bump

[Excuse_My_Bellicosity]

He looks like he's a couple of cans short of a 12-pack.

[AnAmericanMother]

It's certainly not a flattering picture.

( . . . I didn't go out of my way to find one . . .)

Seriously, in his "official" photographs he seems to put on a sort of "game face". Maybe because he knows his face in repose looks rather silly.

[Dallas59]

Except for Islam.

[Schwaber]

Why is it a sin to be an environmentalist?

[editor-surveyor]

Because the very premise of environmentalism denies all that we are told in God's word about the Earth, and the power and sovereignty of God.

God has a plan for us, and the Earth is provided for that plan, and no other reason. He says that he will destroy the Earth, and all the rest of the physical universe when that plan is accomplished. Environmentalism stands in defiance of God's stated plan.

[Schwaber]

Thank you for your prompt reply... I'm still a tad confused, though. For example a lot of the damage that is occuring (And I'm not talking about unproven theories like Global warming etc) affects the poor in countries that can't provide a solution, like the current oil spill in the Philippines... Besides this, what about the biblical mandate in Genesis, to be stewards of the earth. Please take this in the intended way. I'm not trying to be bolshy (That shows I'm a brit!) but to understand... Would you then say there is a difference between environmentalism, which is arguably a fear reaction, and ultimately selfish, and Creation care which is about love for the God who created this earth and the people affected by pollution?

[editor-surveyor]

I won't attempt to deny that people make messes, but the assumption that those messes cause permanent 'damage' to the planet is in my opinion, unsupportable. If people were to leave the site for a few decades, evidence of that damage would likely be unobservable.

"Would you then say there is a difference between environmentalism, which is arguably a fear reaction, and ultimately selfish, and Creation care which is about love for the God who created this earth and the people affected by pollution?"

There is no connection between the two. Enviornmentalists hate God, and seek to use baseless fear to establish socialist tyranny on a global scale, solely to erradicate the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

[Schwaber]

Hello again, and thanks for your reply. I appreciate being able to discuss this sensibly despite our differences, and being able to learn.

It was perhaps unfortunate that I received it two days before the Chernobyl anniversary, so there are now reminders in our media that the area is still contaminated and still covered in radioactive dust, and that a new containment unit has to be built around the destroyed core… Mind you I’ll agree with you that there were political reasons that it happened, related to communism. Germany is committed to shutting down its last reactor in 2012.

I think I’m correct in understanding that you have no problem with Christians involved in creation care, as opposed to environmentalists. Is that correct?

Have you background information to suggest that Environmentalists want to bring in Socialism? I appreciate that some are distinctly anti-Christian, but the main anti-socialist forces in East Germany, which spearheaded the protests against the socialist government there, were the church and the environmental movement. Both consisted of people willing to die for their freedom, and faced terrific persecution. However, new information is always welcome.

Schwaber