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Victor Davis Hanson prescribes the level of pain strategy for Syria by Israel
Hugh Hewitt radio show ^ | July 13, 2006 | Hugh Hewitt interviews Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 07/19/2006 11:32:19 AM PDT by Tolik

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1 posted on 07/19/2006 11:32:24 AM PDT by Tolik
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To: neverdem; Lando Lincoln; quidnunc; .cnI redruM; yonif; SJackson; dennisw; monkeyshine; Alouette; ...


    Victor Davis Hanson Ping ! 

       Let me know if you want in or out.

Links: FR Index of his articles:  http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=victordavishanson 
His website: http://victorhanson.com/     NRO archive: http://www.nationalreview.com/hanson/hanson-archive.asp

2 posted on 07/19/2006 11:32:52 AM PDT by Tolik
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3 posted on 07/19/2006 11:34:21 AM PDT by Tolik
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If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

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4 posted on 07/19/2006 11:35:41 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do!)
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marking with thanks for the post...


5 posted on 07/19/2006 11:38:54 AM PDT by eureka! (Heaven forbid the Rats get control of Congress and/or the Presidency any time soon....)
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To: Tolik

If Bush and Olmert don't stand tough now, emboldened Hezbollah will be blowing up Grand Central Station, the Hamptons, and that mall in Minnesota. Because Israel is the appetiser. The US is the entree.


6 posted on 07/19/2006 11:43:29 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Tolik

For once he may be wrong, as it looks as though Israel is going to take out Hizbollah militarily and make a real mess of Hamas.

If Iran steps in then the US gets involved.

Peres said last night on the BBC that they won't take on Iran, that is upto the super powers, but they are going to destroy Hizbollah.


7 posted on 07/19/2006 11:44:45 AM PDT by crazycat
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Excellent article ping!


8 posted on 07/19/2006 11:50:16 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (The Arab League jihad continues on like a fart in an elevator - FR American in Israel)
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To: Tolik
While Victor Davis Hanson makes some brilliant points here, I can't help but find myself more in agreement with the persuasive arguments coming from schools of thought, namely that lead by the accomplished political scientist Hanson Victor Davis.

He, and his colleague at the Charleston Southern University, Davis Hanson Victor, provide a competing analysis that, while not in disagreement with Victor Davis Hanson's adroit conclusions, have a reasoning that differs in it's cromulence and embiggens the persuasiveness of the argument.

Still, I can't help but to also consider the rational appearing in a paper presented by Victor Victor Davis at the annual meeting of the International Studies Association titled "A Middle East identity crisis? State transformation in postwar Afghanistan and Iraq."

In that controversial work of note, the author agrees fully with Davis Hanson Victor while strenuously distancing himself from the conclusions of an earlier work of the aforementioned Davis Hanson Victor.

To add even more fuel to the fire, the ever vociferous and voluble Hanson Davis and Victor Hanson propose an entirely competing and counter-intuitive rational entirely.

9 posted on 07/19/2006 11:51:43 AM PDT by mbraynard (I don't even HAVE a mustache!)
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To: Tolik

I think he nails it.


10 posted on 07/19/2006 11:57:18 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: Tolik

If I were Bush I'd made this clear: any attack by Iran on Israel using nuclear, chemical, or biological weapons would be interpreted as a nuclear strike on the United States. They can figure out what the consequences for that would be.


11 posted on 07/19/2006 12:05:12 PM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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"HH: What would you do if you were given ten minutes with the prime minister, Olmert, tonight? What would you advise him to do?

VDH: I would have him through intermediaries tell Mr. Assad, and tell the Lebanese government, that I have six to seven to eight steps that are going to take place. And the first is, I'm going to eliminate all the power grids in Syria and Lebanon if this happens, and that would be X number of rockets. And then I would say if you go beyond that line, you're not going to have any highway system. If you go on to this, you're not going to have any air transportation systems. And I would map it out over about a thirty day period. And I'd say this is your choice, but this is what's going to happen. It's not negotiable. And then let them deal with their own militants, and discuss, and find a face-saving way out. And then tell the Israeli people you're at war, and mobilize. And I think that that would be about the only thing they could do. I would not invade. I wouldn't get on the ground in Lebanon and Syria.

HH: And what do you want to hear the President say over the course of these events unfolding this weekend and next week? .........

VDH: George W. Bush would have to tell the Arab world this is not your fight. These are people who are terrorists, who've tried to attack governments throughout the Middle East, and they understand that Iran was facing sanctions at the U.N., so Iran sicked Hezbollah, Hamas, was facing popular revolt, and it could not govern, so it's unleashed these terrorists. And don't get involved in this, because they're just using you. And I don't think that message will resonate very much in the Middle East, but that's what he's got to do. And then he's privately got to tell Israel, whatever you do, you've got to do it with overwhelming force, and quick, and don't get involved on the ground with these people. "

Good advice. I hope they take it.


12 posted on 07/19/2006 12:05:28 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: hershey
emboldened Hezbollah will be blowing up Grand Central Station, the Hamptons, and that mall in Minnesota

Exactly. And one doesn't need suicide bombers for that sort of thing. Backpack bombs and exploding cars will do fine. Imagine what a few dozen carloads of these maniacs with mortars, ATRs and machine guns could do. This country is totally open to mayhem by these people.

13 posted on 07/19/2006 12:05:30 PM PDT by Gritty (Can we win a war with lawyers as the key force on the American side? - Jim Pinkerton)
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To: Tolik
The only real difficulty in this plan is the assumption that Lebanon's government has the means to (1) force or persuade Hezbollah to stop the rockets and the kidnappings, and (2) disarm them in accordance with UN resolution. Hanson is correct in that they should be held responsible as the state government involved, but it does little good to apply pressure to people who can't apply it in turn to the ones who count.

Somebody's going to have to bell the cat. It should be the Lebanese government - it's their territory. It should be the UN - it's their resolution, after all. It should be the EU or NATO or any of the other collective security organizations long on advice but short on performance. It isn't any of those, however, it's down to the IDF. That being the case they should tell the advice-givers to shut up and that they'll do it their way and call everyone when it's safe to come out. IMHO.

14 posted on 07/19/2006 12:13:22 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: sauropod

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15 posted on 07/19/2006 12:13:55 PM PDT by sauropod (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys." PJO)
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To: hershey

"If Bush and Olmert don't stand tough now, emboldened Hezbollah will be blowing up Grand Central Station, the Hamptons, and that mall in Minnesota. Because Israel is the appetiser. The US is the entree."

So you think if Bush and Olmert DO stand tough now, the terrorists will refrain from further attempts against the US?

It may take them longer, but the islamic expansion bunch is undeterred by obstacles.

And patient.


16 posted on 07/19/2006 12:30:03 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Tolik
"So then they let the fringe take over the public discourse, and then people who have no ideology, they just have an ideology they want to be on the side who wins, thinks that the fringe is winning"

Sounds very much like the credo of the RAT-bastard party.

17 posted on 07/19/2006 12:35:54 PM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: Gritty

Except for the fact that over 100 million American citizens are armed and that there is no where to hide for these scum in the US. They cannot "melt into the civilian population" because they stick out like sore ragheads.


18 posted on 07/19/2006 12:41:53 PM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: ZULU

I think he is parroting what he knows has already been said.


19 posted on 07/19/2006 12:45:38 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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To: mbraynard

I thought Hans Christian Handerson was the Naural Philosopher who quoted the imminent sage his Emineminence Victor Delta as relating Moral Philosophy instead of the Unnatural Scientist a one immoral philosopher L. Ron Old Mother Hubbard.

The Crack in the Cosmic Egg


20 posted on 07/19/2006 12:52:10 PM PDT by BuglerTex (Stable Call!)
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