Posted on 07/18/2006 12:46:21 AM PDT by rebel_yell2
BEIRUT — Thousands of Americans whose vacations and business trips to Lebanon have degenerated with sickening speed into stints in a battle zone remained stranded here under Israeli bombardment Monday, their frustration and anger mounting because the U.S. government hasn't gotten them out faster.
Waiting around Beirut with bags packed and fingers crossed, U.S. citizens derided the embassy for busy phone lines, a lack of information and gnawing uncertainty over when and whether they will get out. Hundreds were expected to be shipped to Cyprus today, but how long the full evacuation will take remains uncertain.
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Nearly everyone I've heard who is over there has blamed the State Department and they've said all the same things that Rebel has said, so I won't bother repeating them in the interests of time.
And yes, we all understand that military planning needs to be done for the extractions. It's a dicey situation and I was a wreck that the helicopters would be shot at; they still could be shot at.
But it is noted by a lot of people in a lot of countries that somehow France was able to extract their people a lot faster. Why is that? Weren't they afraid of being shot at?
The hostage language was an unfortunate choice of words, but I can guarantee you that DC and other governments aren't delighted that the port is not accessible and that the airport is unusable before over 100K people were extracted.
In addition, there have been posts that he's complained about the cost of extraction. Not true. That he's a Hezbollah supporter. Not true and an obscene suggestion. I've listed the lies and won't go through them all again.
You're all entitled to your feelings as I'm entitled to mine. I'm not trying to change your mind but when I see outright lies posted about him or his posts, I'll challenge them.
Rebelyell has stated he's AGAINST hizoblaah ,Syria & Iran
Rebelyell did state he supports Israel , while also being upset about the situation.
I think people are reading WAY TOO MUCH in his statement that he's upset with Israel.
He's in a warzone & WHO knows what kind of lies he's been told.
YOU stated REBELYELL was lied too . You stated Lebanon was the TRUE Blockade Probelm .
I AGREE with you that YES Lebanon was trying to keep the blockade , And THAT Lebanon is putting false blame on Israel.
But I also think rebelyell deserves some slack !
I Think it's horrific he was told he DESERVES To be in a warzone because he went to an Arab country .
I think it's Horrific he was told he never was in Lebanon in the first place .
Rebelyell has NOT been getting alot of sleep in a warzone , & he deserves Prayers & Well-Wishes
That poster whose opinion you seem to think is correct thinks that Rebel is on vacation. FGS
Has reading comprehension gone out the window on this thread?
Actually I was thinking of sending rebelyell paypal money if he needed it .
I would hope people would help me if i needed it.
I felt bad because I wasn't sure he could make the phone call from where he was, but I certainly could. I was just afraid I would need to know more about RY2 than I did, in order to get someone to talk to me. Wasn't a problem at all.
Glad you understood. G'night to you, too!
I think it's this thread that I posted that a few months ago I took my dad to the hospital for emergency surgery at 9:30 in the morning and didn't get home until 12:30 a.m.
I was worried, tired, hungry and cranky as all get out and blaming the hospital for not getting to my dad faster than other more critical patients. I sounded like a whiny baby even to myself. LOL
The outright lies I've seen about this poster are really making FR look like it's inhabited by a bunch of nuts.
Yes , If I was freeper in a war zone I would want Well-Wishes !
All the other posters want to nit-pick rebel & KICK him when he's down .
I don't think they know what Compassion MEANS !!!!!!!!
It's so easy to go and read someone's posts that there's no excuse for the lies that he's upset about having to pay for extraction or hates Israel or is on vacation, etc. If it was one lie or misunderstanding, fine. But this is piling on and it's ugly.
I'm going to check my pings and head to bed.
Another freeper on this thread called rebel a swear word .
One freeper seemed to want his death , & it would be ALL rebels FAULT if rebel Died !
rebel could have very easily died , been taking hostage , & Etc.... & other freepers just want to bash him . It's downright disgusting !
I KNOW who NOT to contact if I'm in trouble !!
That's disturbing. Very disturbing.
On this thread or another one I saw a freeper say he was a newbie and suspect. Oh yeah - a newbie. Since 1998! LOL
Yes , But I'm Glad they are Freepers Like You !
Who Tell The Truth !
IMPEACH NIFONG :)
Rebel isn't on vacation , & you stated to a freeper who said rebel was on vaction that you AGREED with them
G' night, DvdMom. Love the tagline :-)
Liar.
This is a fellow freeper since 1998 , & he is in a bad situation .
Alot the other freepers want to say he hates Israel .
Rebel said he's Pro- Israel.
I just wish the best for rebel
You stated pointsal was correct !!
pointsal SAID rebel was On Vacation !!!
LIAR , YAH RIGHT !!!!
Ummm, I didn't say any of those things. I didn't necessarily say he had been lied to by anyone except the overemphasis by the media that Israel is the bad guy in this.
I don't know who told him the source of the blockade, but it is true that Israel is blockading the harbor. It's just that they're blockading small boats that could be carrying weaponry into Lebanon or those portable rocket launchers out of Lebanon into Israeli waters. In fact, we don't know that perhaps that *is* happening - or, at least, *had been.*
So, not knowing the source, I couldn't say for sure that he had been lied to, so I didn't. I just told all sides - that American ships are not being allowed by Lebanon to dock there - which is still true. We are having to use boats of other registry to evac our own citizens and none of our own military ships are allowed to dock at all (I have a feeling that includes the amphibians we were anticipating having to use).
They gave a 48-hour reprieve on the harbor at the same time the borders to Syria were opened to all - when they had not been allowing Americans into that country or giving visas to Americans. We are only on a free pass in that they're allowing Americans to evac at all, on the boats the US is sending. After Friday, things may change. For right now, things are a little more positive than they were 2 days ago, from our POV.
Allowing the European ships to board passengers for evacuation was simply because they *weren't* Americans. We found out that some of them were, but only after they were long gone from the area.
None of these things were what I was upset with RY2 about at all. I wasn't even really upset - just said I'd check back in later, since he wasn't responding and I felt like I was talking to a wall, when he *did* respond to flamers, instead. That's all.
Yea, right.
Wonder how many registered Republicans go to Beirut for vacation....
Frankly, what is anyone's justification for going there.... Odds are high that the sympathies for the ex-pat and vistors does NOT run with Israel...
If you take changes, then be prepared for snake-eyes on the dice...
1,053 posted on 07/19/2006 8:36:06 PM EDT by pointsal (Q)
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Pay attention. You might want to look at some of the homepages of the people you're trashing from the comfort of your armchair.
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