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7/17 Middle East Live Thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1666537/posts?page=3202 ^ | 7/17/06 | me

Posted on 07/16/2006 11:11:16 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

09:02 Amir Peretz: We won`t stop fighting before achieving our objectives (Haaretz)

08:52 Barrage of Katyusha rockets hits Kiryat Shmona (Itim)

08:48 IDF arrested 12 wanted Palestinian militants in overnight West Bank raids (Itim)

08:32 Two Qassam rockets land in Ashkelon; no casualties or damage reported (Channel 10)

08:07 One IDF soldier lightly injured in fighting in northern Gaza Strip (Israel Radio)

07:57 Asia-Pacific officials working to evacuate citizens from Lebanon (AP)

07:31 Rocket barrage slams into Safed; no immediate report of casualties, damage (Haaretz)

07:30 Two people lightly injured in Acre from rocket hits (Haaretz)

07:21 Alarm sirens heard in Tiberias, no hits reported as yet (Channel 10)

07:20 Two people lightly wounded by sharpnel in Qassam hits on Sderot (Haaretz)

07:07 Lebanese: IDF attacks Beirut port; large fire breaks out (AP)

07:00 Third Qassam rocket hits Sderot; no casualties reported (Haaretz)

06:56 IDF soldier injured in Beit Hanun (Haaretz)

06:49 Katyusha rocket hits community near northern town of Acre; 4 people injured (Haaretz)

06:43 Two loud explosions rock southern suburbs of Beirut (AP)

06:37 Two Qassam rockets hit Sderot; no casualties (Israel Radio)

06:16 Lebanese: 17 fatalities, 9 of them soldiers, in latest round of IDF strikes (Israel Radio)

06:13 Qassam rocket hits western Negev; no casualties (Israel Radio)

06:08 IAF strikes over 50 targets in Lebanon in overnight attacks (Israel Radio)

06:05 IDF says air raid sirens in Haifa were false alarm (Israel Radio)

06:03 Air raid sirens sound in Haifa (AP)

05:46 IDF: Lebanese military involved in Friday attack on Israeli ship (AP)

05:43 IDF: Radar stations targeted were used in Friday attack on Israeli ship (AP)

05:37 IDF: Latest attacks in Lebanon are against radar stations used by Hezbollah (AP)

05:13 Israel blames Hizbollah after Canadian deaths in southern Lebanon (Reuters)

04:35 Oil surges back toward record highs after weekend of Middle East violence (Reuters)

04:13 13 killed, including 8 soldiers, in renewed overnight IDF attacks in Lebanon (AP)

03:21 EU foreign ministers discuss diplomatic options in effort to end Mideast violence (AP)


TOPICS: Breaking News; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; hezbollah; hizballah; hizbullah; iran; islam; israel; jihad; middleeast; muhammadsminions; syria; terrorism; terrorists; ww3
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To: mfccinsd

Oh, thanks. I take back the "morons" I called my TV newspeople.


341 posted on 07/17/2006 3:46:45 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: BurbankKarl
"...Israel will also try to target the 12 most senior members of Hezbollah, who are hiding in bunkers deep in the Dahiya quarter in southern Beirut. These men are strategic targets...."

If I recall correctly, didn't the Israelis purchase some MOABs or other such bunker busters from the USA? Time to test and see how well they work....

342 posted on 07/17/2006 3:46:53 AM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: mfccinsd

Fox saying there was a four stage plan by Israel (and we only know the first two stages; 3rd about to begin):

Stage 1: started the first day of all this, hitting bridges and airport, etc.

Stage 2: (started Friday) hitting Hezbollah targets in Beirut (south are, etc.)

Stage 3: supposed to just be starting today

Stage 4: the last stage...starting ? (they don't know)

Or rather the last two stages not being released right now.


343 posted on 07/17/2006 3:46:54 AM PDT by mfccinsd
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To: Southack
Hiroshima, 1945. Options: lose 1 million U.S. soldiers in an invasion or lose 400,000 Japanese civilians.

It was because of the lessons of Hiroshima and Nagasaki that we won't use them unilaterally again.

As far as using that scenario to counter my statement, we didn't have the sophisticated weaponry back then that we have at our disposal today.

With today's smart weapons and missles, we wouldn't be faced with an invasion option so described.

Just my opinion.

344 posted on 07/17/2006 3:47:41 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: mfccinsd

F&F talking to someone stranded now - by phone.


345 posted on 07/17/2006 3:47:54 AM PDT by mathluv (Never Forget!)
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To: Rte66

Well they may not have been this time, but I somehow suspect that they're not so accurate much of the rest of the time...if it's anything like most of the reporting has been :-) LOL


346 posted on 07/17/2006 3:48:02 AM PDT by mfccinsd
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To: mfccinsd

The sirens have been going off for days. The missile count at last report is over 800, and the sirens go off for many areas when inbound missiles are detected, not just the area where the missiles land.

I'm seeing video on NBC that looks a lot like secondary explosions in Lebanon, and there was a report that Israel has intelligence on Hezbollah missile stockpiles.


347 posted on 07/17/2006 3:48:34 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: Allegra

Well, that is NEWS. I didn't mean that stuff.


348 posted on 07/17/2006 3:49:27 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: Allegra
I hope you're right. However, I'm not even sure if I can really form an objective opinion on this particular issue.

I hope I'm right too.

And please...take care over there...and come home safely. Because as sure as I am in my opinion regarding the United States and Israel, I hold an entirely opposite opinion regarding Iran.

349 posted on 07/17/2006 3:52:04 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: Miztiki
I'm so grateful that I don't have to live in fear of being bombed. God bless the USA.

Yep...the bomb surprises can suck. I'm so glad I come from the USA. I have gained a whole new appreciation for the USA.

(Except that it's kind of boring there....LOL)

350 posted on 07/17/2006 3:55:05 AM PDT by Allegra (FReeping LIVE! from suddenly one of the safer places in the Middle East)
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To: mfccinsd

From Haaretz:
13:33
Iranian foreign minister arrives in Syria for talks on Lebanese-Israeli
fighting (AP)


351 posted on 07/17/2006 3:56:59 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: rhombus

If there ever was a doubt what Buchanan thinks about Israel or George Bush, that show last night put an end to it for any person who understands the English languge.

He sounded just like every liberal and every Arab we've heard for the last few days, only meaner; it sounded like he was spitting.

He is a POS.


352 posted on 07/17/2006 3:57:21 AM PDT by Howlin (Pres.Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!~~Zook)
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To: daybreakcoming
"Then what you are saying is that other wannabe nuclear powers understand that if they hit the US with a preempted nuclear strike, only then they will be hit back with one?"

Well I suppose if they were to premptively hit England, Israel, etc., we might.

Today we have nukes as a deterrant primarily...wouldn't you agree?

353 posted on 07/17/2006 3:58:14 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: Howlin

Did you hear the clip of Bush talking to Blair? LOL!


354 posted on 07/17/2006 4:00:29 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: Howlin

It will be interesting to see if the Buchananites on FreeRepublic will step up to defend him.


355 posted on 07/17/2006 4:01:06 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Miss Marple
Well, that is NEWS. I didn't mean that stuff.

Oh, OK. I realize we've been a little off-topic. I'm going on very little sleep the last few days (we've all been a tad distracted...LOL) and we're all in "punchy" mode here now.

If I say anything really goofy on here, the above is my disclaimer. :-)

356 posted on 07/17/2006 4:01:24 AM PDT by Allegra (FReeping LIVE! from suddenly one of the safer places in the Middle East)
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To: DCPatriot
And please...take care over there...and come home safely. Because as sure as I am in my opinion regarding the United States and Israel, I hold an entirely opposite opinion regarding Iran.

Thanks. Most of it we're just watching out of interest and also concern for friends we have in Israel and Lebanon.

Iran is the factor that has us all a little anxious.

357 posted on 07/17/2006 4:03:54 AM PDT by Allegra (FReeping LIVE! from suddenly one of the safer places in the Middle East)
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To: Allegra

CNN now saying that last rocket barrage into Israel (about half hour ago when the 5 were launched) that one went into Tiberius (sp?) again, but also saying, as Fox did, no casualities reported at this time.

US State Dept estimating that 4,000 of the 25,000 US Citizens would like to evacuate.

They are reporting that they think they will evac a few dozen more today that are "very high priority cases" but that "Wednesday or maybe tomorrow" they will be able to get a boat and do what the French and Italians are and ferry people to Cyprus. But until then, they need to continue to wait.


358 posted on 07/17/2006 4:06:20 AM PDT by mfccinsd
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To: mfccinsd

Sky News Reporting Israel Officer Says Offensive will end in Days

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1667012/posts


359 posted on 07/17/2006 4:09:21 AM PDT by Peach (Prayers for our dear friends in Israel.)
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To: mfccinsd

Fox has State Dept person telling everyone that their loved ones need to "stay put" in Beirut. Do NOT try to travel out another way. "Stay in place" and give them information about how to contact them IN Beirut. Also saying they estimate a small percentage of the 25,000 will want to leave.

So far it's been a few embassy folk (non-essential/family), some unaccompanied students, people with young children or those with health care needs that have left.

They are NOT in evacuation status yet in Lebanon.


360 posted on 07/17/2006 4:10:20 AM PDT by mfccinsd
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