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7/16 Middle East Live Thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1666163/posts ^ | 7/16/06 | me

Posted on 07/15/2006 11:24:32 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

09:19 MDA: More than 20 people hurt in Katyusha rocket strike in Haifa (Channel 2)

09:16 Residents of Acre, Haifa and its suburbs told to enter bomb shelters (Israel Radio)

09:15 Tenth Katyusha rocket lands in Haifa (Israel Radio)

09:15 Explosions heard in Rosh Hanikra (Israel Radio)

09:11 Katyusha rockets hit Acre and suburbs around Haifa Bay (Channel 2)

09:06 Report: Three to five explosion heard in central Haifa (Israel Radio)

08:47 Chirac: Forces threatening Lebanon`s security, sovereignty must be stopped (AP)

08:41 Sgt. Tal Amgar killed on Navy ship to be buried 16.00 Sun. at Ashdod cemetery (Itim)

08:39 Chirac calls for `show of moderation` in Lebanon, says cease-fire needed (Reuters)

08:37 IDF denies report of air raid on power station south of Beirut (Haaretz)

08:36 Hezbollah says it fought off attempt by IDF ground forces to cross Lebanese border (AP)

08:35 Bush urges Israel `to be mindful of the consequences` of its military actions (AP)

08:19 Jewish man arrested after threatening to stab Palestinians in J`lem`s Old City (Itim)

08:15 Al Manar: Nasrallah to give an interview later Sunday to prove he`s well (Israel Radio)


TOPICS: Breaking News; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; islam; melivethread; middleeast; muhammadsminions; ww3; wwiii
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To: Dog

To: jeffers
Very troubling escalation if this "threat" is carried out.

16:11 Hezbollah-linked Lebanese minister: We won`t strike Israel`s nuclear plants (Haaretz)

Folks the pucker factor just went thru the roof.



Respectfully, Dog, the pucker factor here has remained at nearly constant levels throughout this crisis.

When you make a habit of deliberately and regularly confronting the worst case possible, then reality usually arrives as a bonus, much more pleasant than what you planned for.

This could go nuclear.

It won't go nuclear here, with the infinitesimally possible exception of one or two population centers.

We cannot lose, if it comes to a fight, but we can ensure that our enemies cease to exist. That is the unalterable bottom line.


641 posted on 07/16/2006 7:51:30 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: jeffers

Your reasoning is sound, but it assumes a lot. I guess in a sense Muslim/Arab states have responded to geopolitics in the sense when they realized they would not be able to take on Israel conventionally they have resorted to unconventional means (development of wmds and creation/support of terrorism networks) The next question is will they get the point the world (well at least Israel and the US) won't stand for these unconventional methods much longer. I think they will need to be heavily prodded for the picture to take hold


642 posted on 07/16/2006 7:52:02 AM PDT by jhp
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica
They now intend to bomb anywhere and everywhere that the missiles come from, civilian or not so citizens need to clear the area.

I'm glad they're listening to my suggestion. ;^)

643 posted on 07/16/2006 7:52:10 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: oceanview
Zelzal...

And Iran has supplied the Hizzes 200 of them..

644 posted on 07/16/2006 7:53:14 AM PDT by Dog
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To: dinoparty

They NEED their fruits and veggies! LOL


645 posted on 07/16/2006 7:53:39 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (What's so hard to understand about the word illegal?)
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To: Alouette

Jane Harmon is on Face the Nation, trying her best to blame Hezbollah's attacking Israel on Bush.


646 posted on 07/16/2006 7:53:51 AM PDT by RouxStir (No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: BurbankKarl
"A senior IAF officer revealed to the Post on Sunday afternoon that the IDF was using bunker-buster bombs to strike at senior Hizbullah officials in hiding throughout Beirut and Lebanon. According to the officer, several of the bunker hideouts were hidden under civilian parking lots. "

Full article is here:

Army using bunker-busters against Hizbullah leadership

647 posted on 07/16/2006 7:54:21 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: jeffers

Good analysis.


648 posted on 07/16/2006 7:54:38 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: DCPatriot

They now intend to bomb anywhere and everywhere that the missiles come from, civilian or not so citizens need to clear the area.

I'm glad they're listening to my suggestion. ;^)

This won't do it, boot on the ground are necessary or else we will be doing this again in a few years (see Gulf War I and II)


649 posted on 07/16/2006 7:55:01 AM PDT by jhp
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To: jeffers

the only realistic way to see the arab-israeli conflict is that it is a zero sum situation. period.


650 posted on 07/16/2006 7:56:07 AM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: Fitzcarraldo
Saying "we won't hit your nuclear plants" has the same ring as "we won't kill your hostage". It's a veiled threat.

To which if the Israeli PM has any guts the response should be "Good, because then we won't need to respond by nuking every population center in Lebanon and Syria into molten radioactive glass."
651 posted on 07/16/2006 7:56:10 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Dog

Dog wrote:
Zelzal...

And Iran has supplied the Hizzes 200 of them..

my understanding is Hizbullah only has 20 of them


652 posted on 07/16/2006 7:56:23 AM PDT by jhp
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To: Pox

Ok, you worry that this man will not stay the course.

My worry, backed up by all recent indications to date, is that he is prone to escalate the kidnapping of three persons into a global crisis, and that he may not have the seasoning necessary to walk the very fine line between rsponding intelligently, and stepping too far over the line to ensure what is now, only a possibility.

He gave the Syrians a 72 hour ultimatum.

What say we suspend this discussion until the man is no longer bound by honor to avoid striking his enemies?


653 posted on 07/16/2006 7:56:52 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: RouxStir

Now dont we ALL know that EVERYTHING is Bushs fault?
I stubbed my toe this am, that is Bushs fault too.
Convenient, eh?
/sarc


654 posted on 07/16/2006 7:56:58 AM PDT by carmenbmw (My cats name is Mean. He earned it.)
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To: All

CNN reporting that a "live" (I think that's what they said) speech to be given by Nasrallah soon.

Not caught up yet on this thread, so I'm not sure if he's supposed to be alive or dead, or injured.


655 posted on 07/16/2006 7:57:00 AM PDT by KJC1
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To: InterceptPoint; jeffers
The IDF on Sunday mobilized a reserve infantry division in preparation for a possible ground incursion into south Lebanon, The Jerusalem Post has learned. The move was intended as the beginning of a new effort to push Katyusha rocket launching cells away from the Israel-Lebanon border.

The division was setting up command posts along the northern border, while tanks and armored personnel carriers were being transported northward.

Interesting..

656 posted on 07/16/2006 7:57:17 AM PDT by Dog
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To: kingattax
the only realistic way to see the arab-israeli conflict is that it is a zero sum situation. period

In the content of UN and superpower meddling that is true.

657 posted on 07/16/2006 7:57:29 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: DCPatriot
Laugh! I hear that!

Bombing the TV station 3 times and Hez headquarters 3 times after they've been theoretically destroyed doesn't seem to be the way to impress Hez methinks.

658 posted on 07/16/2006 7:58:29 AM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Middle East Interactive Map: http://interneticsonline.com.dish5009.net.ibizdns.com/MEMap.html)
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To: Fitzcarraldo

*context


659 posted on 07/16/2006 7:58:52 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: carmenbmw

"Now dont we ALL know that EVERYTHING is Bushs fault?"

Well, except hemorrhoids, those I blame on Congress.


660 posted on 07/16/2006 7:59:13 AM PDT by RouxStir (No Islam, Know Peace)
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