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7/16 Middle East Live Thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1666163/posts ^ | 7/16/06 | me

Posted on 07/15/2006 11:24:32 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

09:19 MDA: More than 20 people hurt in Katyusha rocket strike in Haifa (Channel 2)

09:16 Residents of Acre, Haifa and its suburbs told to enter bomb shelters (Israel Radio)

09:15 Tenth Katyusha rocket lands in Haifa (Israel Radio)

09:15 Explosions heard in Rosh Hanikra (Israel Radio)

09:11 Katyusha rockets hit Acre and suburbs around Haifa Bay (Channel 2)

09:06 Report: Three to five explosion heard in central Haifa (Israel Radio)

08:47 Chirac: Forces threatening Lebanon`s security, sovereignty must be stopped (AP)

08:41 Sgt. Tal Amgar killed on Navy ship to be buried 16.00 Sun. at Ashdod cemetery (Itim)

08:39 Chirac calls for `show of moderation` in Lebanon, says cease-fire needed (Reuters)

08:37 IDF denies report of air raid on power station south of Beirut (Haaretz)

08:36 Hezbollah says it fought off attempt by IDF ground forces to cross Lebanese border (AP)

08:35 Bush urges Israel `to be mindful of the consequences` of its military actions (AP)

08:19 Jewish man arrested after threatening to stab Palestinians in J`lem`s Old City (Itim)

08:15 Al Manar: Nasrallah to give an interview later Sunday to prove he`s well (Israel Radio)


TOPICS: Breaking News; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; islam; melivethread; middleeast; muhammadsminions; ww3; wwiii
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To: jhp

Well they need to remember a score that the Marines never got to settle also... personally set up by Nasrallah.


562 posted on 07/16/2006 7:21:07 AM PDT by AliVeritas ("One for all , all for kicking *ss and taking names" ...Scratch taking names. Vlad fatwa)
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To: Lizarde
It is my sense that Syria does not want to get involved

Agreed. They can't get involved too soon or it will blow their cover. The world would have solid proof and reason to go after them if they used those "non-existant" WMD of Saddam.

563 posted on 07/16/2006 7:21:07 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: hershey

Damn, I wish I would have seen that! :)


564 posted on 07/16/2006 7:21:12 AM PDT by Pox (If it's a Coward you are searching for, you need look no further than the Democrats.)
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To: Fitzcarraldo
Excellent! Thanks for checking it out. Laugh. Loved it when I could zoom into my house. Unfortunately street level satellite/aerial views are only available for US/UK right now.

GREAT way to visualize what's going on over there though!

566 posted on 07/16/2006 7:21:41 AM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Middle East Interactive Map: http://interneticsonline.com.dish5009.net.ibizdns.com/MEMap.html)
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To: texas booster
... it told the media that ball-bearing packed warhead that hit SyriaHaitha (typed in error) was developed in Syria.
Have a link? I haven't heard of this one, and a search brought only unrelated articles on FR. Thanks!

FWIW, I saw the report on FNC by Tobin (I think). He had the ball bearings in his hand and said proves this was developed by Syria.

567 posted on 07/16/2006 7:22:45 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (What's so hard to understand about the word illegal?)
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To: mainepatsfan

Hey, this might work out for us:
Paris Hilton in the 'Not Simple, but Very Short Life'
(Snicker)


568 posted on 07/16/2006 7:23:09 AM PDT by carmenbmw (My cats name is Mean. He earned it.)
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To: All

Anyone heard from rebel_yell2 this am?


569 posted on 07/16/2006 7:23:16 AM PDT by blu (People, for God's sake, think for yourselves)
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To: Pox

Not much faith in the Olmert govt. here either. Did anyone just catch Shimon Peres with Wolfie on CNN. What a wussy, pratically promised IDF wouldn't touch Syria, what are they so afraid of, certainly not Syria's military, and they shouldn't be afraid of international condemnation either b/c that's coming whether they like it or not for whatever actions they take. That is irresponsible talk coming from the vice PM, at least keep syria on her toes


570 posted on 07/16/2006 7:23:18 AM PDT by jhp
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To: Fitzcarraldo
I dunno, that could be, but this also gives hezbollah time to dig in, lay in mines and other nasty surprises, and also relocate their militants.
571 posted on 07/16/2006 7:23:30 AM PDT by Pox (If it's a Coward you are searching for, you need look no further than the Democrats.)
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To: pitinkie
Anyone hear the University of Washington student in Beirut, she is studying Arabic, bash bush and blame all this on the US support of Israel?

Ah, I knew this thread was missing something. Finally the obligatory "Bush's fault".

/s

572 posted on 07/16/2006 7:23:41 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: Pox

Pox wrote:
No, Olmert is losing his nerve, IMO. He's looking for the easiest possible way to stop the offensive
without losing face and his job.



So if IDF was under your command, you would publicly state that you intended to overrun Lebanon, giving a precise estimate of when you would begin offensive operations, at a point in time well before your military was ready to execute?

If and when Israel stands down its reserves, you can call capitulation credibly.

If and when that happens, we can then discuss the advisability of initiating a potential nuclear conflict over three kidnap victims, and a vehement desire to prove that an individual is not a "pussy".

You do not have to possess high energy weapons to inflict nuclear damage onto your enemy, all you need to do is demonstrate an ability to hit your enemy's nuclear installations successfully.

I know the young bucks always want to run in and prove their courage, and this is all part of a Darwinian process. Not every adolescent is permitted to advance up the chain of command to become a general officer.

But with age comes wisdom, and with wisdom comes an inclination to dot every i, and cross every t before initiating combat. It is a part of respecting the lives of those who serve under your command, and a part of respecting the lives of those whom you have sworn to serve and defend.

When the board doesn't offer favorable odds, a true general is never afraid to wait for a better opportunity.

We survived, prospered, and won a 30 year nuclear stalemate with the Soviet Union, and we did not do so by rushing into combat half cocked. We took some losses square on the chin in light of avoiding losses in much greater numbers.

All this said, I am not advocating that anyone back down, at least not at this point. I do think it prudent however, to assess all of the possible outcomes, and design a strategy consistent with achieving your objectives with the fewest possible casualties, execute that strategy fearlessly, and re-assess the effectiveness of said strategy at numerous points along the way.

I think if we choose not to engage at this time, then in the long run we can take the Islamists, utilizing many of the same natural tendencies which defeated the Soviet Union.

I also think that if we take the time to maneuver a very small quantity of additional assets into place, we can engage all of our enemies now with full expectations of victory.

I do not have access to the body of information available to the Israeli Prime Minister, nor to the US Government, but I do have faith in my Commander in Chief to accurately assess the situation and take the proper course in this matter.

From there, I can rest peacefully, come what may.



573 posted on 07/16/2006 7:24:13 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

double-clicking the left mouse button zooms in - how does one zoom back out?


574 posted on 07/16/2006 7:24:24 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Pox
I'm wondering how long it'll take those little cockroaches to regroup and start pestering Israel once again after the current operations have concluded.

A week to 10 days?

575 posted on 07/16/2006 7:24:30 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: hershey

Nasrallah should be THE main target, bar NONE! The world will be a cleaner place. Still holding out hopes from last night. Last article I read before crashing was that he'd been "hurt" in an Israeli bombing. Can't be "hurt" too badly for me!


576 posted on 07/16/2006 7:24:59 AM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Middle East Interactive Map: http://interneticsonline.com.dish5009.net.ibizdns.com/MEMap.html)
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To: Pox
but this also gives hezbollah time to dig in,

It's been speculated that hez is also planning hostage taking among the 50,000+ foreign nationals.

577 posted on 07/16/2006 7:25:44 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: prairiebreeze

Do you remember Sodano doing this before with JPII, who was also on vacation? Big mistake.


578 posted on 07/16/2006 7:25:45 AM PDT by AliVeritas ("One for all , all for kicking *ss and taking names" ...Scratch taking names. Vlad fatwa)
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To: Fitzcarraldo
Sorry, only the zoom arrows on the right can zoom you back out. or selecting another link from the list.

Microsofts call, not mine *grumble* :)

579 posted on 07/16/2006 7:26:12 AM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Middle East Interactive Map: http://interneticsonline.com.dish5009.net.ibizdns.com/MEMap.html)
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To: hershey
Yes, THAT Shimon Peres, the godfather of Oslo. Life's funny that way in how Israel's leading apostle of appeasement now sounds like a hawk!

(Go Israel Go! Slap 'em down Hezbullies.)

580 posted on 07/16/2006 7:26:14 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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