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7/16 Middle East Live Thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1666163/posts ^ | 7/16/06 | me

Posted on 07/15/2006 11:24:32 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

09:19 MDA: More than 20 people hurt in Katyusha rocket strike in Haifa (Channel 2)

09:16 Residents of Acre, Haifa and its suburbs told to enter bomb shelters (Israel Radio)

09:15 Tenth Katyusha rocket lands in Haifa (Israel Radio)

09:15 Explosions heard in Rosh Hanikra (Israel Radio)

09:11 Katyusha rockets hit Acre and suburbs around Haifa Bay (Channel 2)

09:06 Report: Three to five explosion heard in central Haifa (Israel Radio)

08:47 Chirac: Forces threatening Lebanon`s security, sovereignty must be stopped (AP)

08:41 Sgt. Tal Amgar killed on Navy ship to be buried 16.00 Sun. at Ashdod cemetery (Itim)

08:39 Chirac calls for `show of moderation` in Lebanon, says cease-fire needed (Reuters)

08:37 IDF denies report of air raid on power station south of Beirut (Haaretz)

08:36 Hezbollah says it fought off attempt by IDF ground forces to cross Lebanese border (AP)

08:35 Bush urges Israel `to be mindful of the consequences` of its military actions (AP)

08:19 Jewish man arrested after threatening to stab Palestinians in J`lem`s Old City (Itim)

08:15 Al Manar: Nasrallah to give an interview later Sunday to prove he`s well (Israel Radio)


TOPICS: Breaking News; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; islam; melivethread; middleeast; muhammadsminions; ww3; wwiii
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To: GonzoGOP

Sorry about the silkworm mention. I copy/pasted from another discussion.

I think whether it was built in Iran or China might depend upon how old it was. Iran was having trouble with the guidance system, I believe, and ended up buying Chinese made missiles.
Either way, it was supplied by Iran.


1,081 posted on 07/16/2006 10:27:40 AM PDT by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: RasterMaster

Maybe Lockhart has seen the light. If Morris can do it anybody can.


1,082 posted on 07/16/2006 10:28:45 AM PDT by defconw (Yes I am a Bushbot, so what of it? Dubbed Bushbot 2 by Bushbot 1 :)>)
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To: michigander
Iranian Fajr Missiles Used in Haifa Attack20:05 Jul 16, '06 / 20 Tammuz 5766

(IsraelNN.com) The rockets which caused death and destruction in Haifa on Sunday morning contained parts made in Syria, according to security officials.

They were, however, Iranian-made 220 mm Fajr missiles, with a range of 40 kilometers, security sources said.

In a statement read on al-Manar TV, Hezbollah’s television station, the terrorist organization said it had fired “a salvo of Raad-2 and Raad-3 rockets.”

The terror organization added that it would target petrochemical plants in Haifa if the IDF continued air strikes in Beirut.

If Hezbollah is successful at hitting one of those petrochemical plants with their missiles and there are casualties.......If that happens............well you KNOW Israel will really "step-it-up!' and I would hope so.....not that I wish any harm on Israel though.

1,083 posted on 07/16/2006 10:29:00 AM PDT by yield 2 the right
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To: Fitzcarraldo

"Chirac said G8 considered Lebanese government's loss of control over its territory unacceptable and criticized all forces that challenged the government's authority in the country as a destabilizing factor."


It's not a case of "loss of control", it's a case of allowing control. EVERY muslim country allows some form of terrorist group to exert some sort of control in their country...and more often, they finance the terror group.


1,084 posted on 07/16/2006 10:29:15 AM PDT by RouxStir (No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: KJC1
More evidence that this world is being run by sniveling men, who are afraid of the Islamic cultists.

There are very few real men allowed to represent their citizens, the message of "stability" has been the only message for 40 years now.

That has allowed the Islamic cults to roam the globe for decades, murdering innocents with impunity.

And the appeasers, girly men and Nancy boys have responded to this blackmail with a hope of some elusive policy change, and peace talks.

While they are surrounded with bodyguards, their citizens are being blown to bits in the marketplace.
1,085 posted on 07/16/2006 10:30:37 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: Right_in_Virginia

No problem. New poll up on the home page. Tancredo v. Allen in 08. Allen needs some help. Hint, hint. :)


1,086 posted on 07/16/2006 10:30:39 AM PDT by defconw (Yes I am a Bushbot, so what of it? Dubbed Bushbot 2 by Bushbot 1 :)>)
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To: GonzoGOP
The C-802s aren't Silkworms. Heck, we shouldn't worry about them at all. After all "the Clinton Administration `has concluded at present that the known types [of C-802 cruise missiles ] are not of a destabilizing number and type'." Even though they were in violation of the 1992 Gore-McCain act!
1,087 posted on 07/16/2006 10:30:52 AM PDT by JohnBovenmyer
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To: Peach

You may be right...you are always looking for new ways for us to be activists...

Perhaps spreading our "cheer" on that site might help. I will try to draw on YOUR optomism.


1,088 posted on 07/16/2006 10:31:51 AM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Chuck54

has Sweden lost their mind? scroll on CNN said they are evacuating their people to Syria, using 10 50 seater buses taking 9 hours to get there.

target rich environment!


1,089 posted on 07/16/2006 10:32:08 AM PDT by RDTF ("We love death. The US loves life. That is the big difference between us two.” Osama Bin laden)
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To: RDTF

I think everyone but America's allies are evacuating through Damascus...putting huge flags on the roofs of their busses...


1,090 posted on 07/16/2006 10:34:00 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: RDTF

That is insane. Damascus is next.


1,091 posted on 07/16/2006 10:34:55 AM PDT by NinoFan
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To: Txsleuth; Peach

Dowd and McKinnon are Rove guys, this could be a major boon for us little people. :) Peach is right, we have the resources. I can't tell you how much I learn here on this forum. It's amazing really.


1,092 posted on 07/16/2006 10:35:01 AM PDT by defconw (Yes I am a Bushbot, so what of it? Dubbed Bushbot 2 by Bushbot 1 :)>)
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To: RDTF

No, I think the Swedish is heading to Syria in order to get their folks home by using the airport at Damascus.

Americans I think are not being allowed into Syria.


1,093 posted on 07/16/2006 10:35:18 AM PDT by Chuck54 ("What you take to Vegas, stays in Vegas.")
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To: BurbankKarl

do they really think they are immune from terrorists? sheesh!


1,094 posted on 07/16/2006 10:35:19 AM PDT by RDTF ("We love death. The US loves life. That is the big difference between us two.” Osama Bin laden)
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To: defconw; Peach

I signed up also...we may really have an influence if we could get a lot of freepers..that really want to make a difference to sign up.


1,095 posted on 07/16/2006 10:36:10 AM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: yield 2 the right
I'll bet that infantry division that is saddling up is getting ready move back the missile launch sites so the targets will be out of missile range.
1,096 posted on 07/16/2006 10:36:36 AM PDT by cibco (Xin Loi! Saddam)
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To: Chuck54

no what? 9 hours full of Swedes on 10 buses treking thru terrorist territory doesn't sound insane to you?


1,097 posted on 07/16/2006 10:36:42 AM PDT by RDTF ("We love death. The US loves life. That is the big difference between us two.” Osama Bin laden)
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To: defconw

Middle East 

St. Petersburg, July 16, 2006

Today, we the G-8 Leaders express our deepening concern about the situation in the Middle East, in particular the rising civilian casualties on all sides and the damage to infrastructure. We are united in our determination to pursue efforts to restore peace. We offer our full support for the UN Secretary General's mission presently in the region.

The root cause of the problems in the region is the absence of a comprehensive Middle East peace.

The immediate crisis results from efforts by extremist forces to destabilize the region and to frustrate the aspirations of the Palestinian, Israeli and Lebanese people for democracy and peace.  In Gaza, elements of Hamas launched rocket attacks against Israeli territory and abducted an Israeli soldier.  In Lebanon, Hizbollah, in violation of the Blue Line, attacked Israel from Lebanese territory and killed and captured Israeli soldiers, reversing the positive trends that began with the Syrian withdrawal in 2005, and  undermining the democratically elected government of Prime Minister Fuad Siniora. 

These extremist elements and those that support them cannot be allowed to plunge the Middle East into chaos and provoke a wider conflict.  The extremists must immediately halt their attacks.

It is also critical that Israel, while exercising the right to defend itself, be mindful of the strategic and humanitarian consequences of its actions.  We call upon Israel to exercise utmost restraint, seeking to avoid casualties among innocent civilians and damage to civilian infrastructure and to refrain from acts that would destabilize the Lebanese government.

The most urgent priority is to create conditions for a cessation of violence that will be sustainable and lay the foundation for a more permanent solution.  This, in our judgment, requires:

The framework for resolving these disputes is already established by international consensus.

In Lebanon, UN Security Council Resolutions 1559 and 1680 address the underlying conditions that gave rise to this crisis. We urge the UN Security Council to develop a plan for the full implementation of these resolutions.

We extend to the Government of Lebanon our full support in asserting its sovereign authority over all its territory in fulfillment of UNSCR 1559.  This includes the deployment of Lebanese Armed Forces to all parts of the country, in particular the South, and the disarming of militias. We would welcome an examination by the UN Security Council of the possibility of an international security/monitoring presence.

We also support the initiation of a political dialogue between Lebanese and Israeli officials on all issues of concern to both parties. In addition, we will support the economic and humanitarian needs of the Lebanese people, including the convening at the right time of a donors conference. 

In Gaza, the disengagement of Israel provided an opportunity to move a further step toward a two state solution under the Road Map.  All Palestinian parties should accept the existence of Israel, reject violence, and accept all previous agreements and obligations, including the Roadmap.  For its part, Israel needs to refrain from unilateral acts that could prejudice a final settlement and agree to negotiate in good faith.

Our goal is an immediate end to the current violence, a resumption of security cooperation and of a political engagement both among Palestinians and with Israel.  This requires:

- An end to terrorist attacks against Israel;

- A resumption of the efforts of President Abbas to ensure that the Palestinian government complies with the Quartet principles;

- Immediate expansion of the temporary international mechanism for donors established under the direction of the Quartet;

-  Israeli compliance with the Agreement on Movement and Access of November 2005 and action on other steps to ease the humanitarian plight of the people of Gaza and the West Bank;

- Resumption of security cooperation between Palestinians and Israelis;

- Action to ensure that the Palestinian security forces comply with Palestinian law and with the Roadmap, so that they are unified and effective in providing security for the Palestinian people;

- Resumption of dialogue between Palestinian and Israeli political officials.

These proposals are our contribution to the international effort underway to restore calm to the Middle East and provide a basis for progress towards a sustainable peace, in accordance with the relevant UN Security Council Resolutions.  The Quartet will continue to play a central role.  The G-8 welcomes the positive efforts of Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Jordan as well as other responsible regional actors to return the region to peace.  We look forward to the report of the Secretary General's mission to the Security Council later this week which we believe could provide a framework for achieving our common objectives.

1,098 posted on 07/16/2006 10:37:20 AM PDT by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: JohnBovenmyer

Bumping this one for future moonbat bashing...


1,099 posted on 07/16/2006 10:37:49 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Liberalism-What a Pagan Religion...)
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To: defconw

I didn't watch Fox News Sunday yet...did you watch it??

If you did...how did Sen. Allen do?


1,100 posted on 07/16/2006 10:38:07 AM PDT by Txsleuth
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