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Gingrich says it's World War III
Seattle Times ^ | July 15, 2006 | David Postman

Posted on 07/15/2006 8:32:36 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative

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To: Windsong

...because Pakistan is covered by India. Only three of our carrier groups could cover China sufficiently, although India has positioned (even with all associated expenses and time) to stop China. As for Russia,...

Russia to be neutral in possible Iran-US armed conflict
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121 posted on 07/15/2006 10:43:56 PM PDT by familyop ("Either you're with us, or you're with the terrorists." --President Bush)
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To: West Coast Conservative
"This idea that we have this one-sided war where the other team gets to plan how to kill us and we get to talk, is nuts."

Exactly. We're at war with Islam, period.

122 posted on 07/15/2006 10:44:13 PM PDT by blam
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To: rbg81
The current situation is not a World War yet, and the American military only grew into the millions after the United States got into the second World War.

While the number of active troops currently could be a bit small, they could be augmented by technology.

123 posted on 07/15/2006 10:45:44 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( http://www.answersingenesis.org)
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To: lightman

"I personally hold Jimmy Carter responsible for dereliction of duty and every US death at the hands of terrorists in this past quarter century.
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Good point. I appreciate the logic.

Well said.


124 posted on 07/15/2006 10:45:54 PM PDT by RavenATB (Patton was right...)
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To: jeltz25

Stamping out islam would be difficult task for the United States, even with a military of fifty million (though Americans can still try).


125 posted on 07/15/2006 10:47:49 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( http://www.answersingenesis.org)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Only as difficult as the PC constraints we'd put on ourselves. It could be done quite easily if we resolved ourselves to it.


126 posted on 07/15/2006 10:58:44 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: West Coast Conservative
Newt Gingrich says America is in World War III and President Bush should say so

I agree with Newt
esp. about the President needing to say so.

more than half the frickin libs I know refuse to even acknowledge we are in a war . Until they go out to protest against it!
127 posted on 07/15/2006 11:16:56 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse (weakness is provocative)
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To: B-Chan
"Commuting by car would cease, forcing Americans to travel by bus, train, and bicycle, improving the health, nerves, and breathing of urban Americans. Instead of wasting time downloading porn and smoking pot, neighbors would find themselves obliged to band together to share food and clothes, hoe each other's vegetable patches, fix the local doctor's bicycle, swap chores, and generally help each other out. Best of all, America could finally begin building a new generation of safe nuclear power plants on a 24/7 basis, allowing us to finally gain energy independence and tell the rest of the world to kiss our red-white-and-blue striped asses."

To you this is an ideal vision, not unlike that of the commissars of the supreme soviet. It did not work then and will not work now.
Why stop there? Wouldn't the effort and resources used to make wheel chairs be better spend on victory gardens or finding and gathering wood to keep warm on freezing nights?
Yes we can all raise some cotton or kill some deer to make clothes but we don't have to. Man, as he was directed, has been given the earth to make more for himself. We have gone beyond.
Yes I can pull a sore tooth and take a few days off to convalesce or I can get a dentist to do it relatively painlessly and be back at work the next day. Your statements speak of a nearly Thoreau type idealism that did not work even for those days, and will not work now. Do you really believe that an elite would not still enjoy cars and central heat? We already won the cold war against an adversary whose founders spoke of the same ideas you now espouse.
All that did was set their country back 25 years and cost about 50 million people their lives. However a couple of things you mention would work and are needed. We need nuke power ASAP. That alone would set us free and make our economy prosper. Cheap power, cleaner environment right off the bat. We have the technology, we should do that.
Next, reduce imports from the muslim nations by drilling for our own on our soil. Help the Canadians develop their oil sands. Import ONLY from those who follow our idea of life, democracy, and the market.
This would take a while but would eventually dry up the $$$ that terrorists states and sympathizers have to spend in the free markets. No money and they are powerless. Who cares if they kill themselves if they are not contributers to the worlds betterment.

Yes things are going to be tough for a while but we can handle it if we put our minds to it. That has always been the American, and modern way. No need to demand a return to walden pond to overcome problems we should be beyond.

I have faith in our ingenuity and our can do spirit. We have ALWAYS overcome our impediments and gotten better. We will again.

Sir I feel sorry for you that the soviet union is dead. You do however still have a wealth of reading material on the web in in libraries from Lenin, Marx, Mao, Chomsky, et al. Don't worry, there will not be a bunch of competition to view those proven works of failure.

We are beyond where you want to take us and that is good. People live longer lives, have PLENTY to eat, and can spend time learning and living rather than just surviving. I for one am glad
128 posted on 07/15/2006 11:18:23 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: samtheman
"But you can't keep blaming Carter forever"

His point, if I may be so bold as to attempt to speak for him, is that Carter showed grotesque weakness in the face of the first wave of Islamic extremism and allowed the "spawn of Satan" to grown unchecked.
129 posted on 07/15/2006 11:21:21 PM PDT by RavenATB (Patton was right...)
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To: lightman
And it began in November 1979 in Tehran;

WWIV (not III) began June 5, 1968 at the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles.
130 posted on 07/15/2006 11:24:42 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: tomzz
"We've got more oil under Colorado "

Not to mention off our coasts, in Canadian oil sands, and in Alaska. The revolution we need now it to learn to ignore the greenies and global warming fakes and get on with it.

If they don't want any of it, fine, let them heat their homes and cook their food with solar and wind power... or chop down some forests to make a fire. But will they even do that? Oh, too bad. another frozen greenie.
131 posted on 07/15/2006 11:25:57 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: DarthVader
Gingrich says it's World War III! So do I.

It is WWIV. III was the "Cold War". Only twice as many people were killed around the world as in WWII, so you might have missed it ;-)
132 posted on 07/15/2006 11:28:30 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: AnnaZ
President Bush calls Flight 93 revolt "First counter-attack in World War III"

It is WWIV. And the first counter attack was when Rosie Greer and others wrestled Sirhan B. Sirhan to the floor after he fatally shot Robert Kennedy, June 5, 1968.
133 posted on 07/15/2006 11:37:02 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: samtheman
Who just came out the other day and declared that the creeps being held at gitmo deserve Geneva Convention protections? I don't think that was the peanut boy president.

Bush needs to get back that MAN who stood there in New York after the 911 attack! Where did THAT George Bush go??? Why has he whimped out?

134 posted on 07/15/2006 11:40:48 PM PDT by blondee123
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To: B-Chan
Commuting by car would cease, forcing Americans to travel by bus, train, and bicycle...

I don't think you would have to go this far. I say ban vehicles that get less than 20MPG on the highway and give tax incentives for any vehicle that gets more 30MPG. Exclude any heavy trucks and buses from this restriction, though. Give tax incentives for any vehicle that is a hybrid or runs on alternative fuels. Drill ANWR and off the coasts and we will reduce our oil dependency by 75%. This by itself would alleviate the need to obtain oil from hostile sources. Build 50 to 100 Nuclear plants and we will have eliminated our oil dependence altogether.
135 posted on 07/15/2006 11:50:15 PM PDT by lmr (You can have my Tactical Nuclear Weapons when you pry them from my cold dead fingers.)
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To: Just A Nobody

"I think any American with common sense knows this already...The only people who need the dots connected are liberals.....
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and Newt and more than a few Republicans and FReepers. This "article" represents one of the many reasons I will just say NO to Newt."
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But unfortunately, Jammah Cahtah, Bubba, George McGovern, et. al., aren't available for you to vote on in 2008 so I guess that makes you "Just a Nobody."


136 posted on 07/15/2006 11:52:20 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: familyop
You are ignoring that Tom Tancredo is ahead of Newt Gingrich in those polls in Member opinion, Non-Member opinion, and composite oppinion.
137 posted on 07/15/2006 11:56:05 PM PDT by Yaakov The Orator
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To: rintense
I am not a Newt fan either. Never liked him.

I was the same way until I heard how much the left hates him and so I started listening to him and I like him. :o)

138 posted on 07/16/2006 12:14:14 AM PDT by daybreakcoming ("We will not tire. We will not falter. We will not fail")
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To: West Coast Conservative

Just the thought of a Pelosie, Cynthia McKinney, Reid, Kennedy, Feingold, Kerry, Durbin or any other number of cowardly Democrats holding the reigns during these perilous times gives me Diarrhea.....excuse me while I runnnnnnnn back to the toilet.


139 posted on 07/16/2006 12:26:52 AM PDT by OKIEDOC
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To: what's up
I'm not sure what would be gained by changing the verbiage from "War on Terror" to "World War III" except a lot of fear.

WWI and WWII drum up visions of 100's of thousands of Americans killed.

If you ask me, we need to be fearful. The enemy we are facing is insane, ruthless, determined, and large. Far too many people wrongly view this war as little more than something they see on the news that is only going taking place thousands of miles away - something that doesn't really affect them directly. As for 100's of thousands of Americans killed - it will most certainly happen, and sooner than you think, if we don't get 100% serious and start treating this thing like the world war that it is. People in this country need to realize this and start preparing themselves for a fight to the death.

140 posted on 07/16/2006 12:32:13 AM PDT by frankiep (I respect Islamofacists more than the American left - at least they ADMIT that they hate the US.)
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